Maybe if you literally ignore last season entirely where we were forcing Samsonov into more games than he should have because of Dubas' terrible pick for a "1B" goalie.
Did you guys actually forget this guy was acquired to actually play for Toronto?
Confirmed with Link: G Matt Murray is out indefinitely, will be put on LTIR prior to season starting.
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Did you guys actually forget this guy was acquired to actually play for Toronto?
Da Mash
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A good goalie when healthy? Who are you talking about cause that sure as shit ain't Murray
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I am curious when players go on LTIR is it like when I am on LT disability and the insurance company checks up every month or so? How does LTIR work in the NHL?
This. Imagine if that $4.5m was used on something useful last year
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Didn’t we have a excellent season again? And didn’t our backups play well? How did we suffer with Murray being injured?
Sammy started 40 games of 82
And we are complaining of his workload? Wow
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That was $4.5m that could've been used last off season to aquire someone useful
disgruntleddave
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League investigation will be launched to validate it considering he was cleared to play per keefe in the post season.
I'm sure they'll buy it and that'll be that.
I'm sure they'll buy it and that'll be that.
And how the other goalies played and the team in general is somehow relevant to this?
Dubas traded Murray with the full intent of playing him as a 1A or 1B goalie. In 7 out of 9 Murray's last starts he posted a SV% under .890. Was basically completely unplayable and then he got hurt. Painting this as some good trade is mentally ill.
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I think most would have preferred a healthy starting goalie for the playoffs.
It was very unfair to have Joseph Woll thrust in that position.
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Murray is now on LTIR which he didn't have much to do.
1L as Sammy wasn't locked up long term. UFA signings are TBD. Still hasn't hasn't signed Matthews and Nylander.
So no he's not eating Ws.
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Huh? Another poster was complaining about Sammy workload.
Reiner started more games and so did 22 other goalies.
Then they complained we used him too much down the stretch and then again….Sammy played 7 games since March 21st…
I don’t care about Murray…like any other player being injured. You use them for cap space on LTIR at trade deadline.
Not sure what the fuss is all about?
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Yes, and there were very worrying rumors about Sammy playing injured. That would have been a fantastic place for this alleged "1B" goalie who's being paid a lot more to come in and take over for a bit.
There is no fuss. There's some ridiculous claims about it somehow being a good trade when it was no such thing.
Your claim that the team didn't suffer because Murray was hurt is false. Not because the goalies couldn't handle the load, but because that $4.5m could've been used on almost anything else and been better value than trading for shit ass Matt Murray
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I don't think he was looking to lock him up.
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I read that Murray would get paid $5.5 on the buyout.
And $8 million on LTIR
Makes sense that he would be on board if true.
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Didn’t we use
It wasn’t a bad trade either. We used his salary on LTIR didn’t we? and didn’t we need that savings to acquire ROR and others?
And rumours are just that. I don’t believe that comes out of TO media. Players play hurt and it wasn’t like our backups lost us games.
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Good players/goalies should be locked up long term to reasonable deals. This is L imo.
Not locking up Samsonov and his .899 SV% when it counts is a W in itself.
Not continuing to overpay two of the entitled 4 is another W.
You seriously think Sammy playing hurt was just a rumor? Did you not remember this board being in a panic'd frenzy over it for how many games? Did you not remember Sammy looking VISIBLY hurt on the ice on several occasions during that stretch?
And Murray being hurt BEFORE the trade deadline than after is more luck than anything. Horrible reasoning really.
I refuse to be gaslit about this.
