Rumor: [Friedman] Nothing imminent, but Columbus may be looking for some help at center

[My3Sons]

it's hard to see CLB giving up anything of significance to acquire a stop gap center. Some team will want to dump a decent but not great center for cap purposes and CLB can pick up that player most likely. Struggling teams don't give up first round picks or top prospects just to stabilize the lineup.

 

[Viqsi]

Want Jeff Carter back?

There is exactly one (1) Blue Jackets fan who would probably say yes. He'd get vetoed by everyone else, though.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Seth Jones and Pierre-Luc Dubois. Also Jonathan Marchessault and Jack Johnson. The former forced their way out of here with his prompting, and the latter started badmouthing the city and organization after they left with him as their agent. Werenski fired him and replaced him with another agent just before extending here.

It's not difficult to connect the dots from there.

To be fair, Jones didn't exactly 'force' his way out, he just said he was going to hit UFA (which he'd earned) after completing a six-year contract he'd signed here. That was also on the heels of pretty much the whole core blowing up (Panarin walking, PLD throwing a tantrum, Foligno/Savard getting moved at the deadline) – I don't blame him for wanting to hit the market and end up with a contender (even if that is hilariously not what ended up happening).

Marchessault was an undrafted free agent who wasn't even a full-time NHL player until like five years after he left the org, and Jack Johnson is Jack Johnson.

As for PLD… well, he is my most hated former Blue Jacket (more than Carter) so… yeah. I'd have some lingering resentment there too if I were Jarmo, but you can't just ice out a powerful agent like that.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

AKA Johnny is realizing he made a terrible mistake.

 

[McJedi]

It's early but Monahan seems to have recovered from his hip issues that were plaguing him. He has not looked out of place in the top 6 and is third in points on the Habs. We are debating on our board whether to flip him for another first or extend him due to his younger age.

Montreal should extend Monahan.

 

[boredmale]

The can sign Monahan in the summer. Wonder if Montreal would trade him for cheap or will they just wait till the trade deadline and hope they can get increased value

 

[TotalHomer]

Rookie HC + extremely young team doesn't seem like a good combo. I doubt getting someone stop gap C will have a big impact on the plethora of problems especially defensively that CBJ has.

 

[Viqsi]

To be fair, Jones didn't exactly 'force' his way out, he just said he was going to hit UFA (which he'd earned) after completing a six-year contract he'd signed here. That was also on the heels of pretty much the whole core blowing up (Panarin walking, PLD throwing a tantrum, Foligno/Savard getting moved at the deadline) – I don't blame him for wanting to hit the market and end up with a contender (even if that is hilariously not what ended up happening).

Marchessault was an undrafted free agent who wasn't even a full-time NHL player until like five years after he left the org, and Jack Johnson is Jack Johnson.

As for PLD… well, he is my most hated former Blue Jacket (more than Carter) so… yeah. I'd have some lingering resentment there too if I were Jarmo, but you can't just ice out a powerful agent like that.

Name a single Pat Brisson client in which Brisson hasn't caused major troubles with the Jackets when doing business here.

(Hint: there aren't any. The closest we've ever had to a normal relationship with him in negotiations was with Alex Wennberg, and even then he was being a dick at renegotiation time; it's just that that was the one time when his dickishness was within the error bars of any other organization-agent relationship.)

I don't want to freeze out anyone represented by Brisson. But Brisson has clearly chosen his path. He has decided he doesn't want his clients going to Columbus and staying. It doesn't matter whether or not we're interested; he is the one making that call. The only thing we can do in response is just not put ourselves in that situation again. As far as I'm concerned the Werenski situation clearly demonstrated that if a Brisson client wants to be able to stay here, the first step in making that happen is to no longer be a Brisson client.

 

[Master P]

Thread title could have just stopped at "help"

 

[Toe Pick]

There is no quick fix at center and everything they've banked on this year (Sillinger taking a step forward for example) has backfired thus far. I highly doubt Toews would waive to come here as he'll rightfully want to go to a contender.

I think the Jackets will ride it out with a stacked draft class at center on the horizon and once again look to the offseason for a shorter term center fix via trade or free agency, among many other needed fixes.

 

[Heldig]

Hockey "insiders" have mastered the art of saying nothing while drawing attention.

Nothing imminent, but this team may be looking to do something at some point, but they also may not.

Friedman is awful for stating the obvious without standing by what he says.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I hate Friedman's schtick, a team could be looking for help... Or not, I have no idea.

 

[BCNate]

how about we throw in jiricek and our 2023 first, too? oh and laine to balance the cap hits

Huh? Are you pretending that Horvat isn't worth either of those guys?

Dude is a 30 goal C who wins far more faceoffs than anyone in the league.

 

[Colezuki]

Nobody is giving a first for Monahan lol

Just like Chariot right?

 

[Danarqhy]

Friedman got exactly what he wanted when he looked at HFBoards and saw this thread today, all from another nothing burger he just threw out there.

 

[PullHard]

Huh? Are you pretending that Horvat isn't worth either of those guys?

Dude is a 30 goal C who wins far more faceoffs than anyone in the league.

Why would a rental be worth guys like that?

 

[Xirik]

I hate Friedman's schtick, a team could be looking for help... Or not, I have no idea.

Have you seen how he looks right now? It looks like he just got hit by a Tornado.

 

[CanadienShark]

Hockey "insiders" have mastered the art of saying nothing while drawing attention.

Nothing imminent, but this team may be looking to do something at some point, but they also may not.

I think, and you know, people are saying, many people are saying that teams are contemplating considering something at some point doing something.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Have you seen how he looks right now? It looks like he just got hit by a Tornado.

To me he looks like his hair plugs are fighting back.

 

[Homesick]

I just don't see what CBJ could possibly give up and shed cap space for a top 6 centre

 

[Captain97]

Trade for Monohan and reunite him and Johnny Hockey

 

[Viqsi]

I just don't see what CBJ could possibly give up and shed cap space for a top 6 centre

Blueliners who aren't working out for us.

...yeah, I don't see it paying strong dividends either.

 

[BCNate]

Why would a rental be worth guys like that?

You realize you could sign Horvat right? That would pretty clearly be the idea here.

 

[CupInSIX]

There isn't, but it's not our choice to make. The guy has consistently f***ed us over with every single client of his we've gotten near. He made the call to go to war, so it's ultimately better for us to just not deal with him where possible so long as he maintains that attitude.

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Perhaps you can tell me, because last I checked this was a conversation about Pat Brisson.

I can tell you that Brisson probably wasn't conspiring with Panarin and Bob to get them to leave Columbus.

Probably.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Adam Henrique for Gus Nyqvist? Both coming off strong seasons but struggling out of the gate.

Henrique has been great in the faceoff circle for the past few years but has been bumped to the wing this season. He has an additional year on his deal at a slightly higher cap hit, so perhaps some retention would be necessary.