Speculation: Free Agency Thread

[Falco Lombardi]

It totally is and a good one at that.

Fabbri is going to be a star. Colton is the Next Shea Weber. Blues scare the crap out of me.

I agree on your assessments of those two. I think considerably less of our forward group not named Schwartz/Tarasenko/Steen/Stastny.

Its definitely not as good as the team last year. They will sorely miss Backes and to a lesser extent Brouwer

 

[Louie the Blue]

We have taken a step back. We are not in a position to take a serious run this season. Not by a long shot.

That's assuming no one replaces Backes' role, which remains to be seen. And I'm skeptical on Jaskin doing that right now if no one else is brought in, but we'll see.

I think Perron's fine as a replacement for Brouwer and his regular season production won't be missed.

 

[Quaz]

Just looked at Detroit's roster and with the 2 UFA signings they now have 15/16 NHL forwards. I think they are going to be the destination for Shattenkirk, as long as he is willing to sign and extension with them. They would have to move someone back at a similar salary to Shatty (Nyquist $4.75/yr) to make a deal work and wouldn't be able to take contract like Bergy back. I would like to see Nyquist + 2017 1st or Nyquist + Svechnikov. Then I think the Blues look to dump Berglund for a draft pick. Not sure if Detroit would consider this, but I don't think they could get Fowler for this type of return.

 

[execwrite]

If nothing more happens it's been a bad off-season. Swapping out Backes and Brouwer for Perron is borderline disaster.

If Shattenkirk goes for an NHL quality scoring RW things will be okay.

Oshie trade was basically a giveaway although Brouwer did help make a WC finals run. Shows the risk of trading for a vet with one-year contract.

Sure hope Jaskin and Rattie are ready for prime time.

 

[Alklha]

Just looked at Detroit's roster and with the 2 UFA signings they now have 15/16 NHL forwards. I think they are going to be the destination for Shattenkirk, as long as he is willing to sign and extension with them. They would have to move someone back at a similar salary to Shatty (Nyquist $4.75/yr) to make a deal work and wouldn't be able to take contract like Bergy back. I would like to see Nyquist + 2017 1st or Nyquist + Svechnikov. Then I think the Blues look to dump Berglund for a draft pick. Not sure if Detroit would consider this, but I don't think they could get Fowler for this type of return.

That doesn't get Shattenkirk just for 1 year. If they are wanting him with an agreed extension, that offer gets laughed at.

Boston are still the favourites here.

 

[Quaz]

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Originally Posted by Quaz View Post
Just looked at Detroit's roster and with the 2 UFA signings they now have 15/16 NHL forwards. I think they are going to be the destination for Shattenkirk, as long as he is willing to sign and extension with them. They would have to move someone back at a similar salary to Shatty (Nyquist $4.75/yr) to make a deal work and wouldn't be able to take contract like Bergy back. I would like to see Nyquist + 2017 1st or Nyquist + Svechnikov. Then I think the Blues look to dump Berglund for a draft pick. Not sure if Detroit would consider this, but I don't think they could get Fowler for this type of return.
That doesn't get Shattenkirk just for 1 year. If they are wanting him with an agreed extension, that offer gets laughed at.

Who would you want with Nyquist if Shattenkirk signs and extension? Mantha? Athanasiou? Maybe two of their top prospects?

What can Boston offer that would be better?

 

[Evocable Manager]

Who would you want with Nyquist if Shattenkirk signs and extension? Mantha? Athanasiou? Maybe two of their top prospects?

I don't want Nyquist to begin with.

 

[joshyhockey26]

If nothing more happens it's been a bad off-season. Swapping out Backes and Brouwer for Perron is borderline disaster.

If Shattenkirk goes for an NHL quality scoring RW things will be okay.

Oshie trade was basically a giveaway although Brouwer did help make a WC finals run. Shows the risk of trading for a vet with one-year contract.

Sure hope Jaskin and Rattie are ready for prime time.

Summer is still early. Can't expect this lineup to stay put for now. Also, neither Jaskin or Rattie are our saving grace anyways

 

[Vincenzo Arelliti]

Nyquist+Svechnikov+1st+

For a signed Shattenkirk

 

[Quaz]

I guess if Boston would offer Pasternak for Shattenkirk, that would work, but Sweeny has already stated that they aren't trading Pasternak. I don't see much else from Boston that would excite me for Shatty.

 

[Evocable Manager]

I guess if Boston would offer Pasternak for Shattenkirk, that would work, but Sweeny has already stated that they aren't trading Pasternak. I don't see much else from Boston that would excite me for Shatty.

Bergervin said he isn't trading Subban. That worked out....

Anything is possible.

 

[BlueDream]

Boston is loaded at center now so they could definitely make a deal, but now acquiring Spooner makes even less sense than it did a week ago.

I think there will be suitors for Shattenkirk, but now it looks like the Rangers have the best pieces to offer and I'm not even sure they'll be in the race (?). The other teams don't impress me with a whole lot.

 

[Alklha]

Who would you want with Nyquist if Shattenkirk signs and extension? Mantha? Athanasiou? Maybe two of their top prospects?

What can Boston offer that would be better?

Nyquist had a ~40 point year, and has seen his numbers (& shooting percentage) fall ever since he broke out. Then he disappears in the playoffs, 4-4-8 in 35 games, or 2-1-3 in the last 3 years (17 games).

He has speed, but when he isn't scoring he isn't contributing. If he was solid defensively, it wouldn't be a big issue.

I'd be wanting Tatar, Svechnikov ++ for Shattenkirk with an extension.

Boston have Krejčí. I doubt they would do Pastrňák & Colin Miller. I say they are favourites because I think they are going to be most willing to pay the steepest price. Detroit are always too committed to what they have.

 

[Vincenzo Arelliti]

With Boston landing Backes, Spooner has to be on the way out, we Need to find a way to make that happen.

There's still so much left up in the air with Sobotka and Shattenkirk. If we can grab Spooner as a 2C, let Lehtera play 1C, and have Stastny as our shutdown... Maybe we even consider trading Steen if w can't get an extension done?

Steen Lehtera Tarasenko
Schwartz Stastny Fabbri
Jaskin Spooner Perron
Sobotka brodziak Upshall

Bouwmeester Pietrangelo
Gunnarsson Shattenkirk
Edmundson Parayko

Allen
Hutton

 

[Alklha]

With Boston landing Backes, Spooner has to be on the way out, we Need to find a way to make that happen.

There's still so much left up in the air with Sobotka and Shattenkirk. If we can grab Spooner as a 2C, let Lehtera play 1C, and have Stastny as our shutdown... Maybe we even consider trading Steen if w can't get an extension done?

Steen Lehtera Tarasenko
Schwartz Stastny Fabbri
Jaskin Spooner Perron
Sobotka brodziak Upshall

Bouwmeester Pietrangelo
Gunnarsson Shattenkirk
Edmundson Parayko

Allen
Hutton

We wouldn't be interested in Spooner as a main piece for Shattenkirk. We have had interest, but it was based around Eriksson and Spooner.

 

[Ranksu]

 

[Falco Lombardi]

I just can't imagine them trading Krejci.

 

[SirPaste]

With Boston landing Backes, Spooner has to be on the way out, we Need to find a way to make that happen.

There's still so much left up in the air with Sobotka and Shattenkirk. If we can grab Spooner as a 2C, let Lehtera play 1C, and have Stastny as our shutdown... Maybe we even consider trading Steen if w can't get an extension done?

Steen Lehtera Tarasenko
Schwartz Stastny Fabbri
Jaskin Spooner Perron
Sobotka brodziak Upshall

Bouwmeester Pietrangelo
Gunnarsson Shattenkirk
Edmundson Parayko

Allen
Hutton

That is one small, soft forward group

 

[Alklha]

Good luck to him. I like the guy, but glad he isn't on our roster anymore.

 

[Alklha]

I just can't imagine them trading Krejci.

I'm not sure why anyone would say that with the idiots that Boston have in charge. I could see them trading anyone.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I'm not sure why anyone would say that with the idiots that Boston have in charge. I could see them trading anyone.

I don't think they do either. I can't see them affording Shattenkirk anyway.

 

[frostyflo]

Good luck to him. I like the guy, but glad he isn't on our roster anymore.

couldn't agree more but 800k isn't very risky for the wings, so also good for them

 

[Louie the Blue]

On another note, after seeing Brouwer and Backes leave and no FA signed to replace Backes, Hitch having a swan song next season seems really weird.

 

[Alklha]

I don't think they do either. I can't see them affording Shattenkirk anyway.

Which is why they'd need to move someone like Krejčí out, clears salary for Shattenkirk. Bergeron, Backes and Spooner down the middle.

Not that I expect it, but I can absolutely see it happening. Particularly with the decision to buy out Seidenberg.

 

[Spektre]

That doesn't get Shattenkirk just for 1 year. If they are wanting him with an agreed extension, that offer gets laughed at.

Boston are still the favourites here.

At this point I'll be shocked if Shattenkirk is not on the roster for opening day with the Blues. As utterly stupid as that sounds after watching this farce of a management cluster **** this off season up that is what I expect. Army basically said Shattenkirk will play his final year as a Blue.