In all likeliness, the Oilers will heavily try to move Lucic to Seattle in a couple of years.
Until then they can enjoy the cap frustrations
Carlson would be perfect for our top 4, but realistically i think we are going to end up signing guys like Thornton and Kovalchuk to stop gap deals and then trading to improve our blue line
thornton 1 year x $7 million?
kovy 3 years x $5 million
hyman matthews nylander
kovy thornton marner
marleau kadri kapanen
leivo xxxxx brown
rielly hainsey
gardiner zaitsev
dermott holl
borgman
That D is worse than it is now. Need a better option than Holl in order to seriously compete for the SC next year.
On the fence for Jumbo and Kovy. On one hand it could work on another might be too risky to bank on a 35 and 39 year old. If they fail, you lose the year.
Latest Leafs report podcast tidbit: Mirtle says the Leafs offer for mcdonagh was “well below” other teams. No Kapanen, Dermott or Liljegren, just “b level” prospects.
Honestly makes me happy they’re being a bit conservative in thebtrade market - harder to make blunders that way.
Would have been even happier had they not spent a 2nd on Plek. Brutal and unnecssaryLatest Leafs report podcast tidbit: Mirtle says the Leafs offer for mcdonagh was “well below” other teams. No Kapanen, Dermott or Liljegren, just “b level” prospects.
Honestly makes me happy they’re being a bit conservative in thebtrade market - harder to make blunders that way.
Hes a pretty prime compliance buyout candidate for the next lockout.
Same with Price and Weber.
I think you only get one compliance buy out right?
Shea Weber
Brent Seabrook
Milan Lucic
Loui Eriksson
Andrew Ladd
Nikita Zaitsev
Wonder who else is in there?
Johnny Boychuk?
Uh... Not going to happen. Unless we get someone else or until Liljegren comes up, he's the only thing we have close to a top 4 RHD, and is on a great contract. Sure his possession numbers are not fantastic, he's not putting up a ton of points, and he gives up the puck a little bit more than he should, but he has the 3rd highest defensive point share on the team (higher than Rielly in fact) despite playing between 11 and 17 games less than his competition (who range from -0.9 to +0.4 from him, so he'd be blowing them out of the water as our best defensive defenseman had he been healthy the entire year), and has the most ATOI with a ridiculous amount of PK time against top end competition. We are not going to find a suitable replacement for less than he's making. Probably could not even find one without going over 5-5.5 mill a year.
If we use a compliance buyout on anyone, it'll probably be Horton or Marleau. Maybe you only save on a year or two, but they'd be the worst contracts we have at that time. An even better option, if we are allowed, would be to acquire someone else's problem for a huge return and buy that guy out, but we may not be allowed to do that.
Also last time we got two. One for Komisarek and one for Grabovski.
Latest Leafs report podcast tidbit: Mirtle says the Leafs offer for mcdonagh was “well below” other teams. No Kapanen, Dermott or Liljegren, just “b level” prospects.
Honestly makes me happy they’re being a bit conservative in thebtrade market - harder to make blunders that way.
well not me.
why bother going for McDonagh if you weren't going to make a serious offer. they could have just gone somewhere else. geeze.
There were no 'A level' prospects in the final deal, though? For the Leafs to be "well below" other teams, their offer must have been really low.
Thy mentioned guys like Nielsen
I think given what's out there in the UFA market, Thornton represents the best risk/reward for what you'd be signing him for. It would be a 1 or 2 year term with good upside. Tavares and Statsny are the other options (Sedin isn't leaving Vancouver) - both of those players will obviously carry more term and cap hit. Those contracts have the potential to become burdens for multiple years at the end. Thornton doesn't carry that risk.
He may not be as effective as he was but given the role he'd be asked to play, it's not a huge demand.
I'm not keen on a multi-year deal for Kovi. The Leafs have good LW depth in the system and while it's not to the level of Kovi, I'd rather spend the cap space on the blue line. If they wanted a depth LW scorer, I'd go with Vanek for a 1 year deal that would be much cheaper and could pot 20 goals, 40 points if he's healthy.
Considering what the Bolts paid, I don’t think it was worth it to get yet another LHD.
Leafs likely couldn’t be sure of what other teams were offering - so they took a shot in the dark hoping to get a bargain. Didn’t work or, but that’s preferred to overpaying imo.
Nielsen is probably going to be shipped out by the end of the off season for some sort of player to help us out now. Seems to be the value chip they are leading with, and who can blame them with the amount of young LD depth the Leafs have. Dermott, Borgman, Rosen (who may also be a trade chip, but apparently has been much better than his stats indicate ala Rinat Valiev) plus a wealth of guys coming up.
Fedor Gordeev alone is someone who plays a very similar style of game and could easily replace Nielsen in the future.[/QUOTE]
and gordeev can skate. Nielsens skating is very bad, prime candidate for a trade where the other team can be thinking we can fix it, if it could be fixed hed be a great prospect but from posters here who know about skating sounds like there isn't much improvement for him
well not me.
why bother going for McDonagh if you weren't going to make a serious offer. they could have just gone somewhere else. geeze.
Considering what the Bolts paid, I don’t think it was worth it to get yet another LHD.
Leafs likely couldn’t be sure of what other teams were offering - so they took a shot in the dark hoping to get a bargain. Didn’t work or, but that’s preferred to overpaying imo.