NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
I just don't understand this...both the award and why we would have let it come to this.
I just don't understand this...both the award and why we would have let it come to this.
I just don't understand this...both the award and why we would have let it come to this.
4m in the AHL if it comes to that. Not great. Pretty much Darling is still here.One-way probably means the Canes are shelling out $775k more than expected. Out of Reimer ($3.1 million in the AHL), Forsberg ($775k in the AHL), and Ned ($70k in the AHL) Ned might be the best backup option.
My point was that we should have avoided the risk of this result. Now we'll have to pay an NHL salary in the AHL AND he'll be tougher to move given his 1-way deal. Not sure that there was a negotiation to be had, but still this sucks for the cap.Simple, we felt he was only worth a two way deal and with Mrazek, Reimer, and Ned we felt no reason to give him a one way. And I'm in full agreement with that.
My point was that we should have avoided the risk of this result. Now we'll have to pay an NHL salary in the AHL AND he'll be tougher to move given his 1-way deal. Not sure that there was a negotiation to be had, but still this sucks for the cap.
It means nothing for the cap. If he's in the AHL, his entire salary is buried. This is all about cash out of Dundon's pocket.
What’s the rule on this? I thought you got some cap relief but not completely (see: Darling). Is it “relief up to $xxxx” and Forsberg’s salary is below $xxxx?
Million dollars is the limit, so we lose zero cap if he's sent down. He'll be this year's Mac/Pickard after camp anyway. In fact wouldn't surprise me if it's Toronto that snags him.What’s the rule on this? I thought you got some cap relief but not completely (see: Darling). Is it “relief up to $xxxx” and Forsberg’s salary is below $xxxx?
Million dollars is the limit, so we lose zero cap if he's sent down. He'll be this year's Mac/Pickard after camp anyway. In fact wouldn't surprise me if it's Toronto that snags him.
My point was that we should have avoided the risk of this result. Now we'll have to pay an NHL salary in the AHL AND he'll be tougher to move given his 1-way deal. Not sure that there was a negotiation to be had, but still this sucks for the cap.
If Forsberg wanted a 1-way deal and Carolina wanted a 2-way deal, there's nothing they could have done to change this result. He went to arbitration trying to get a 1-way deal and won.
Will it make Forsberg harder to move? Maybe. It also makes him less likely to be picked up on waivers if he doesn't win the backup job.
It's not the result the Canes were hoping for, but they will figure it out. Even if that means an extra $500K-$600K in the budget for Charlotte for this year.
If Forsberg wanted a 1-way deal and Carolina wanted a 2-way deal, there's nothing they could have done to change this result. He went to arbitration trying to get a 1-way deal and won.
Well, they *could* have come up with a guarantee that worked, essentially rendering 1-way vs. 2-way moot, but that wasn't happening in the Dundon v Johannson world.
Well, they *could* have come up with a guarantee that worked, essentially rendering 1-way vs. 2-way moot, but that wasn't happening in the Dundon v Johannson world.
Yes, I edited to "little they could have done" but I doubt Forsberg was interested in a pay cut from $800K to even $300K guaranteed like Carrick just got from SJ.
Damn, he had two year one-way contract previously. I kind of get the intuition that being a one-way is an "acquired benefit" that the Arbitrator didn't justify taking away.Yes, I edited to "little they could have done" but I doubt Forsberg was interested in a pay cut from $800K to even $300K guaranteed like Carrick just got from SJ.