Former Canucks: Players & Management VI

[VC]

Just read on the main boards that Dallas healthy scratched Hamhuis? That can't be right, can it?

Again or still the same one from a couple of weeks back?

 

[I am toxic]

Again or still the same one from a couple of weeks back?

Couple weeks back.

Good article on Dallas' D (thru the first 14 of 18 games) here.

Hammer is still so good:

Hamhuis has been enormously effective with his reach at the blue line this season. As referenced in the table earlier, nobody on the team has a higher rate of entry break-ups than Hamhuis.

This was a guy who could have taught Stecher and Hutton a thing or two. But we have Sbisa's contract instead.

 

[PM]

Yeah he's logging the second most ice time only behind Klingberg and has been on their top pairing all year. Still angers me greatly.

 

[donut]

Grabner just scored his 11th of the season for the Rangers. Remember when he got 11 points all season with us back in 09-10? Good times.

 

[stexx]

Grabner just scored his 11th of the season for the Rangers. Remember when he got 11 points all season with us back in 09-10? Good times.

yep i remember that good young player who scored .5ppg 11pnts in 20games and was promptly sat down on the 4th line and demoted.

still miss the defend the 0-0 tie vigneault meme's.

 

[Horrorshow]

Grabner was so frustrating because he looked really lousy in training camp/pre-season every single season.

 

[RobertKron]

It's always weird to me how so many of the folks to pine after Grabner were the same ones who wanted to shoot Mason Raymond into the sun.

 

[Beansy*]

It's still weird to me that Tallon would trade for Grabner then watch him in training camp and waive him. That's Benning level management.

 

[Hit the post]

Grabner was so frustrating because he looked really lousy in training camp/pre-season every single season.

....on multiple teams.

 

[banme*]

Was curious what Forsling was looking like possession-wise and he's been absolutely miserable in very sheltered minutes.

 

[Jimson Hogarth*]

Between Grabner, Ballard and that draft that was easily one of the worst trades in Canucks history.

 

[Hit the post]

Between Grabner, Ballard and that draft that was easily one of the worst trades in Canucks history.

Another winning post by Jimson.

None of those guys - I'm talking BOTH sides of the trade COMBINED - could hold Neely's jockstrap (and that not even including Glen Wesley who the Bruins essentially also got in the trade).

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Grabner just scored his 11th of the season for the Rangers. Remember when he got 11 points all season with us back in 09-10? Good times.

same guy, same coach, one difference: he is older now. AV hates young players, fire AV.

good times indeed.

 

[Hit the post]

AV hates ANY player (whatever a rookie or veteran) that won't play under his system. See Keith Ballard.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Another winning post by Jimson.

None of those guys - I'm talking BOTH sides of the trade COMBINED - could hold Neely's jockstrap (and that not even including Glen Wesley who the Bruins essentially also got in the trade).

Yeah, not even top 10... probably not top 20.

 

[Jimson Hogarth*]

Another winning post by Jimson.

None of those guys - I'm talking BOTH sides of the trade COMBINED - could hold Neely's jockstrap (and that not even including Glen Wesley who the Bruins essentially also got in the trade).

Compound no Brendan Gallagher and that draft day was a dark dark day for this franchise.

 

[Hit the post]

Compound no Brendan Gallagher and that draft day was a dark dark day for this franchise.

It doesn't even rate to the Rick Vaive & Billy Derlago for Tiger Williams & Jerry "The Shadow" Butler.

Gillis' bigger mistake was failing to buyout Ballard earlier.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

gotta post this one again

prospectus for an ibsen play, or a boston-themed martin scorsese movie:

dramatis personae

BC born superstar superstar center: joe sakic
fill-in defenseman: aaron rome
former canucks defenseman #1: jim benning
former canucks defenseman #2: colin campbell
fourth line agitator #1: derek dorsett
fourth line agitator #2: brandon prust
other team's fourth line agitator: shawn thornton
stalwart western league defenseman #1: glen wesley
stalwart western league defenseman #2: dan hamhuis
trevor linden: trevor linden
young but slow-to-develop power forward #1: cam neely
young but slow-to-develop power forward #2: zack kassian
young, developed power forward #1: milan lucic
young, developed power forward #2: nathan horton


ACT ONE

- canucks trade young but slow-to-develop BC born power forward (#1) along with a draft pick a year in the future (note: the team finished 4th worst in the league that season)

- canucks finish 3rd worst, other team drafts stalwart western league defenseman (#1); but--- local BC-born future superstar center who was way better than pederson was on the table, albeit as a reach at #3 (who am i kidding? we would have taken western league defenseman/bust dean chynoweth with that pick)


[intermezzo: June 6, 1986 - trade in question; June 8, 2005 - young slow-to-develop power forward #1 inducted to hockey hall of fame; June 5, 2008 - stalwart western league defenseman #1 announces retirement]


ACT TWO

- 25 year later, canucks make the stanley cup finals. young slow-to-develop power forward #1 is now a reputedly influential front office guy on the other team after a HHOF career. his team has two young, developed power forwards who each resulted from the original trade (wesley --> samsonov pick --> lucic pick; wesley --> mclaren pick --> jeff jilsson --> brad boyes --> dennis wideman --> horton). his assistant GM is former canucks defenseman (#1) from the sucky pederson era.

- game 1 of the finals, best canucks defensemen, a.k.a. stalwart western league defenseman #2, gets injured delivering a hip check to other team's young, developed power forward #1 early in the second period, gets injured, out for the season



- game 3 of the finals, early in the first period, score tied 0-0, canucks up 2-0 in the series but down their best defensemen, with their next three biggest minute-eating d-men also nursing injuries (ehrhoff - shoulder; bieksa - MCL; edler - rumoured broken fingers; but sami salo----- surprisingly healthy), fill-in defenseman delivers hit on other team's young, developed power forward #2. ejected from the game, canucks implode defensively, other team's physical game woken up, lose 8-1.



- next day, former canucks defenseman #2 rules in favor of his son's team, suspends canucks fill-in defensemen for the year; canucks d pairs remain in disarray, lose three of the next four games.


[intermezzo: other team's fourth line agitator returns to lineup in victorious game 3 after many healthy scratches; after game 5 victory, in which other team's fourth line agitator played only four minutes, fourth line agitator averages an unprecedented >10'30" in lopsided game 6 and 7 victories, cited as a difference-maker in the series.

@2:50]


ACT THREE

- organizational meltdown ensues; best core in team history gets dismantled over next three seasons; canucks brass, haunted by humiliating physical battles lost to other team, blame the loss on lack of toughness.

- three years later, former canucks defenseman #1, now canucks GM, overpays with a 3rd round pick for a fourth line agitator (#1).

- nine months later, former canucks defenseman #1 unfathomably re-signs fourth line agitator #1 for four years at $2.65 million per. justifies deal by praising agitator's mentorship of his young but slow-to-develop power forward (#2).

- two months later, former canucks defenseman #1 gives away young but slow-to-develop power forward #2, with a 5th round pick, for fourth line agitator #2 ($2.5 million cap hit); justifies the trade by saying fourth line agitator #2 will mentor the young kids. fourth line agitator #1 (and his $2.65 million cap hit) still at large.

















EDIT:

EPILOGUE

- five years later, financial audit reveals that former canucks defenseman #1 was a spy all along. trevor linden removes own eyeballs.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

It doesn't even rate to the Rick Vaive & Billy Derlago for Tiger Williams & Jerry "The Shadow" Butler.

Gillis' bigger mistake was failing to buyout Ballard earlier.

and also believing that ballard could replace ehrhoff. if he'd dumped ballard and managed to even partially replace ehrhoff with a decent minute-eating puck mover, i can't help but wonder how 2012 would have turned out.

 

[The Drop]

Between Grabner, Ballard and that draft that was easily one of the worst trades in Canucks history.

Deflect! Deflect!

 

[Archangel]

Grabner just scored his 11th of the season for the Rangers. Remember when he got 11 points all season with us back in 09-10? Good times.

Leafs, Panthers and NYI fans all get to blink everytime he gets a goal

 

[PG Canuck]

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