Forbes: Atlanta Thrashers Will Likely Be Sold For $110 Million

[BB79]

I'm pretty sure this "Kincade" guy is a reporter. Therefore, wouldn't he be just as reliable as say, Dreger?

*ducking for cover*

But this whole situation does remind me how people tend to choose what they want to believe, even if strawman facts are lined up and knocked down.

Why duck for cover? He's full of crap as well. They're ALL playing the speculate-for-ratings game. Until some information, not speculation, is released, that is all they are IMO.

 

[KevFist]

Kincade is far more reliable than Chris Vivlamore, who is the Thrashers beat writer for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Something else being negleted here is the fact that Kincade is also with ESPN. His credibility is on the line here. If he didn't have a solid story, I'm sure he wouldn't be reporting.

 

[Huffer]

Same can be said about this Kincade guy who keeps talking about santa claus I mean "The Balkin". Enjoying those climbing ratings much? Give it a rest.

I don't know how what I said is the same as your point regarding Kincade.

All I was trying to convey is that I see a lot of "everyone in Winnipeg", or "People in Winnipeg are" types of posts.

My point is that most people in Winnipeg roll their eyes, and take a very "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude regarding the NHL. Sometimes people on HF want to paint everyone in Winnipeg as some sort of organized horde of people, all working collectively to "steal" someones NHL team.

I'm just trying to point out that that is not an accurate depiction of the people of Winnipeg.

Even on my hockey team this year, I think we had two, count em, two conversations regarding the NHL. And even then, most of the team was very skeptical that the NHL would let it happen. And that's a room full of 25-45 year old men who play hockey!

 

[BrianL*]

Sometimes people on HF want to paint everyone in Winnipeg as some sort of organized horde of people, all working collectively to "steal" someones NHL team.

Have you not been getting the meeting invitations?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Ok, back on topic. Kincade tweets:

What would fan reaction be IF an exclusive negotiating period was entered into now AND it was not a North of the Border group?

This stuff, from both the Kincaide and Dreger camps, is really getting old.

I could get on my own Twitter and speculate: "Look for new and unexpected information soon, fans might be surprised who is involved in this sale!" and it would have no more meaning or actual information than these tweets. It's just drivel.

 

[borno87]

Kincade is far more reliable than Chris Vivlamore, who is the Thrashers beat writer for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Something else being negleted here is the fact that Kincade is also with ESPN. His credibility is on the line here. If he didn't have a solid story, I'm sure he wouldn't be reporting.

Kincade has been anything but reliable or credible to date. Last month he tweeted that #thebalkan was visiting Atlanta to close around Easter...never happened. He went on Winnipeg radio saying that Atlanta would be sorted out on or around April 30th.... never happened. 10 days ago he tweeted that the #thebalkan was in Atlanta to close the deal... never happened.

I'm not saying Vivlamore, Burnside, Dreger or anyone else is anymore credible. However Kincade has proven not to be credible to date, and to argue otherwise because he has a loose affiliation with the 4 letter network is a pretty weak position to be taking.

Working for a network like ESPN does not make you accountable for your reporting, all it means is that you have a larger audience and thus even more incentive to maintain/grow that audience with speculative reporting. How many times has Burnside been wrong about the ongoing saga in Phoenix? Go ask the Phoenix board about how credible Burnside is, even though he works for ESPN.

 

[Huffer]

Have you not been getting the meeting invitations?

I was wondering where everyone was going the other day.....hmmmm.

And the other day when I was taking my dog for a walk while wearing a Jets sweater someone started to ask about the return of the NHL.

Now that I think of it, I think he was looking for the secret handshake! That must be why he walked away shaking his head.

Can someone please send me the meeting minutes?

 

[Duke749]

Kincade has been anything but reliable or credible to date. Last month he tweeted that #thebalkan was visiting Atlanta to close around Easter...never happened. He went on Winnipeg radio saying that Atlanta would be sorted out on or around April 30th.... never happened. 10 days ago he tweeted that the #thebalkan was in Atlanta to close the deal... never happened.

I'm not saying Vivlamore, Burnside, Dreger or anyone else is anymore credible. However Kincade has proven not to be credible to date, and to argue otherwise because he has a loose affiliation with the 4 letter network is a pretty weak position to be taking.

Working for a network like ESPN does not make you accountable for your reporting, all it means is that you have a larger audience and thus even more incentive to maintain/grow that audience with speculative reporting. How many times has Burnside been wrong about the ongoing saga in Phoenix? Go ask the Phoenix board about how credible Burnside is, even though he works for ESPN.

How could YOU possibly know if this did or didn't happen? Do YOU know who is #thebalkan?

Burnside is an AWFUL example of someone working for ESPN. He doesn't even know what's going on with Atlanta. He had no idea that NDA's had even been signed.

 

[Fidel Astro]

I know relocation is a realistic outcome. I just can't understand how everyone in Winnipeg thinks it's a done deal especially since no one gives me any reason to believe them.

Wikipedia tells us:

Hope is the belief in a positive outcome related to events and circumstances in one's life.

Hope is distinct from positive thinking, which refers to a therapeutic or systematic process used in psychology for reversing pessimism.

 

[borno87]

How could YOU possibly know if this did or didn't happen? Do YOU know who is #thebalkan?

Burnside is an AWFUL example of someone working for ESPN. He doesn't even know what's going on with Atlanta. He had no idea that NDA's had even been signed.

Because he's said TWICE that #thebalkan was coming to Atlanta to close, and yet here we sit months later and the only thing we know about him is that he wears brown loafers. I wasn't doubting that #thebalkan came to Atlanta, I'm merely pointing out that Kincade has twice teased of #thebalkan coming to "close" and we still haven't closed.

My point about Burnside had nothing to do with Atlanta, it was just pouring cold water on the notion that being affiliated with ESPN makes you more likely to stay away from highly speculative reporting tactics, as both Burnside and Kincade have demonstrated in the Phoenix and Atlanta scenarios respectively.

 

[RECCE]

30 THOUGHTS
By Elliotte Friedman

4) Interesting: Word is The Raine Group, which is handling the sale of the Atlanta Thrashers for Atlanta Spirit LLC, is telling prospective buyers the team can be moved because having those dates available for other events (ie. concerts) is a better financial option than hockey. Neither a phone call nor a follow-up email were returned by 10 p.m. ET Monday.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elli...eefe-has-coaching-chops-plus-30-thoughts.html

 

[Duke749]

Because he's said TWICE that #thebalkan was coming to Atlanta to close, and yet here we sit months later and the only thing we know about him is that he wears brown loafers. I wasn't doubting that #thebalkan came to Atlanta, I'm merely pointing out that Kincade has twice teased of #thebalkan coming to "close" and we still haven't closed.

My point about Burnside had nothing to do with Atlanta, it was just pouring cold water on the notion that being affiliated with ESPN makes you more likely to stay away from highly speculative reporting tactics, as both Burnside and Kincade have demonstrated in the Phoenix and Atlanta scenarios respectively.

You seem to be under the impression that these things are settled rather quickly, and they are not. And who's to say #thebalken isn't in Atlanta right now trying to get a deal done? WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

You are taking things out of context.

 

[Jesus Christ Horburn]

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elli...eefe-has-coaching-chops-plus-30-thoughts.html

This seems to suggest that ASG is planning on keeping the arena while trying to sell only the team.

I was under the impression that the Hawks, Thrashers and arena were to be sold as one package.

 

[borno87]

You seem to be under the impression that these things are settled rather quickly, and they are not. And who's to say #thebalkan isn't in Atlanta right now trying to get a deal done? WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

You are taking things out of context.

Not sure how I took "#thebalkan is in Atlanta to close" out of context. Kincade has been tweeting about #thebalkan for MONTHS. The first time he brought up the word close was OVER A MONTH ago. We still don't even know if the guy is a real person!

Until Kincade brings us a direct source/quote from the #thebalkan himself with a name, all of his tweets belong in the same category as the comic book store owner tweets about shutting down streets in Winnipeg. Arguing otherwise would be hypocritical.

And to this:

And who's to say #thebalkan isn't in Atlanta right now trying to get a deal done? WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

How do you know that Dustin Bfuglien isn't in Winnipeg right now looking for houses.... WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING

 

[RECCE]

This seems to suggest that ASG is planning on keeping the arena while trying to sell only the team.

I was under the impression that the Hawks, Thrashers and arena were to be sold as one package.

I guess we'll find out one way or another.

 

[Chief Ten Bears*]

30 THOUGHTS
By Elliotte Friedman

4) Interesting: Word is The Raine Group, which is handling the sale of the Atlanta Thrashers for Atlanta Spirit LLC, is telling prospective buyers the team can be moved because having those dates available for other events (ie. concerts) is a better financial option than hockey. Neither a phone call nor a follow-up email were returned by 10 p.m. ET Monday.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elli...eefe-has-coaching-chops-plus-30-thoughts.html

Hmm. If you go back a page or 2, there were staunch arguments that ASG would never welcome other events rather than a certain 41 dates of hockey, because the Thrashers would most certainly make money on those nights.

I guess that isn't the case after all. Now if Kincade had said it...

 

[saillias]

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elli...eefe-has-coaching-chops-plus-30-thoughts.html

Now watch as some American investors from Houston/Las Vegas/KC come out of nowhere. I am rooting for Winnipeg 100% to get a team back but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Duke749]

Hmm. If you go back a page or 2, there were staunch arguments that ASG would never welcome other events rather than a certain 41 dates of hockey, because the Thrashers would most certainly make money on those nights.

I guess that isn't the case after all. Now if Kincade had said it...

It could also NOT be the case if they could turn this franchise around. But if it keeps going like it has been and with only 13,000 in attendence then yeah, you could probably make more money on concerts.

 

[cheswick]

IMO many journalists use twitter as a means of rumour mongering and don't consider it as an article so don't feel the need to treat it as such. They have their reporting personality and their twitter personality.

 

[Duke749]

IMO many journalists use twitter as a means of rumour mongering and don't consider it as an article so don't feel the need to treat it as such. They have their reporting personality and their twitter personality.

The problem with Twitter is it's hard to find the truth amoungest all of the rumors, falsehood, and speculation.

 

[rkp]

i am from winnipeg and am starting to have doubts about all this natter about relocation...bettman stated before easter on a radio sports show that the nhl would not go through another year in phoenix without an owner or similiar to what happened this past seaso....voila..guess what happened...they are staying...and i do not believe that bettman will never relocate a nhl team to canada...he is stalling till the new cba gets negotiated in the owners favour..more revenue to help with teams who are losing money so they do not have to relocate and look more attractive to prospective local owners.

 

[thed00d]

i am from winnipeg and am starting to have doubts about all this natter about relocation...bettman stated before easter on a radio sports show that the nhl would not go through another year in phoenix without an owner or similiar to what happened this past seaso....voila..guess what happened...they are staying...and i do not believe that bettman will never relocate a nhl team to canada...he is stalling till the new cba gets negotiated in the owners favour..more revenue to help with teams who are losing money so they do not have to relocate and look more attractive to prospective local owners.

That's because, and this is solely my opinion; I believe that the Thrashers have already (albeit unofficially) been spoken for. There is no where for Phoenix to go.

 

[Egil]

That's because, and this is solely my opinion; I believe that the Thrashers have already (albeit unofficially) been spoken for. There is no where for Phoenix to go.

I think this makes the most sense. Why else would the NHL agree to foot another $10 mil+ loss in Phoenix with little hope of getting a new local owner? If I were in Quebec city, I would get my Arena on ASAP to snag Phoenix next year

 

[BB79]

If I were in Quebec city, I would get my Arena on ASAP to snag Phoenix next year

Would LOVE to see that happen!

 

[peter sullivan]

Seriously this kincade guy is toxic. Please stop listening to him. He is going to kill his career and hurt a lot of people in the process.