Friedman: Flyers working with Seattle to move a High Salary Player (Potentially Voracek)

[DarthProbert]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

They're gonna offer Seth Jones way too much, and still want to dip into free agency. Philly always tinkers.

 

[viper0220]

Can't wait to watch Fletcher botch another expansion draft.

What happened last time?

 

[Flyer lurker]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

They have 68m in cap for 21-22.
They need to sign Hart, Sanheim, legit 1b goalie so that is 78mish?

To fix the defense 4-6 m is not enough. Bringing back same team and signing say Adam Larsson on D is not going to change this roster. Ergo JVR or Voracek probably need to go to add an expensive D player (whether Hamilton asap or trade for Jones and sign expensive 1 year from now)

Also note in 22 Couturier, Giroux will be ufa's and it is safe to expect Farabee will get a legit raise as well.

 

[CapnZin]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

I really don’t know. I assume it’s due to resigning some RFAs and need long term cap flexibility. Gross asset management if you ask me. It’s funny that they view Voraceks production and contract as a problem, but not Hayes. That’s the flyers management we have now I guess.

I would assume Voracek got into AVs doghouse and AV wants a better player - or someone who they think is better. My personal opinion is that AV has the reigns on player decisions. Fletcher is just the face. Brent Flahr is the best talent evaluator in the org right now, but I don’t think he gets a say at all. AV is one of the worst and I think he’ll get what he wants. Ghost called out the team for a lack of identity and was waived not too long after if I’m correct. Voracek has said the team is not clicking and that they’ve been together for a while - that’s a roundabout way of saying it’s the coach. According SanFallipo (idk what his name is, but he’s a part of flyers media) Patrick doesn’t like the way AV handles the players.
Better stay on his good side I guess. That’s why the media doesn’t dare say anything bad about AV.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I really don’t know. I assume it’s due to resigning some RFAs and need long term cap flexibility. Gross asset management if you ask me. It’s funny that they view Voraceks production and contract as a problem, but not Hayes. That’s the flyers management we have now I guess.

I would assume Voracek got into AVs doghouse and AV wants a better player - or someone who they think is better. My personal opinion is that AV has the reigns on player decisions. Fletcher is just the face. Brent Flahr is the best talent evaluator in the org right now, but I don’t think he gets a say at all. AV is one of the worst and I think he’ll get what he wants. Ghost called out the team for a lack of identity and was waived not too long after if I’m correct. Voracek has said the team is not clicking and that they’ve been together for a while - that’s a roundabout way of saying it’s the coach. According SanFallipo (idk what his name is, but he’s a part of flyers media) Patrick doesn’t like the way AV handles the players.
Better stay on his good side I guess. That’s why the media doesn’t dare say anything bad about AV.

Well no one confirmed this report (if it's true) is talking about Voracek specifically. That's just the name Friedman plucked out of the air. The candidates likely are Hayes, Voracek, JVR, Ghost, etc. to move out eventually

 

[Drew311]

$8.2Million per season for the next three seasons? That's a commitment of 10% of Seattle's cap for the next three years.

Throw your bid on the pile Flyers.

Seattle will have their pick of a ton of decent cheap players. They need solid vets like Voracek also. It's not like he can't play anymore. He's not worth 8.2M at the moment, but that doesn't mean Seattle isn't willing to take him on for the ~50 points + leadership qualities.

I'm sure Seattle will act like they don't want him, all the while happy to get a good player + assets at the same time.

 

[Boondock]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

With the Flyers being rumored to be in on Seth Jones and Hamilton, I could see them wanting to free up cap for a big move.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Seattle will have their pick of a ton of decent cheap players. They need solid vets like Voracek also. It's not like he can't play anymore. He's not worth 8.2M at the moment, but that doesn't mean Seattle isn't willing to take him on for the ~50 points + leadership qualities.

I'm sure Seattle will act like they don't want him, all the while happy to get a good player + assets at the same time.

A lot of this is accurate. However, there are are 30 teams we will be picking from and Seattle will have a lot of choices on where to get such players from. When picking expensive (but useful) players the additions are most definitely going to play a part on who they decide to take on the expensive contracts from.

 

[BritainStix]

If they want anyone to be selected it's going to be JVR over Voracek. It's laughable to think the flyers will offer a first to lose a positive asset.

 

[flyersfan187]

No way the Flyers give up assets to move Voracek. JVR on the other hand I could see them giving up a little if they can bring in a 1D or a forward on a higher contract.

 

[Bond]

Will Seattle take Lucic as well please

 

[CraigsList]

Flyers maybe going hard for Hamilton? That’s about the amount of salary they would roughly need to get Dougie at 6/7 years.

 

[Curufinwe]

No way the Flyers give up assets to move Voracek. JVR on the other hand I could see them giving up a little if they can bring in a 1D or a forward on a higher contract.

JVR has the cheaper, shorter contract and they both scored 43 points this season.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Hmm 14 overall in this draft seems like not enough to take on Voraceck to be honest. I think Seattle should get a prospect on top, or maybe an unprotected future 1st. They are gonna have a lot of opportunities like this, and 8.25m x 3 is not trivial.

 

[Dan Kelly]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this?

Jack Eichel?

 

[P10p]

What happened last time?

Gave away Tuch and Haula to protect Staal and Dumba.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I'm expecting Tyler Johnson to end up in Seattle too. But if Philadelphia (and Tampa) do trades like this, they're going to expect to trade a similar package to Seattle that got Clarkson in Vegas.

 

[Pantokrator]

If they want anyone to be selected it's going to be JVR over Voracek. It's laughable to think the flyers will offer a first to lose a positive asset.

Laughable, and therefore, likely. I don't trust the people running the franchise to do the best and logical thing.

 

[CapnZin]

Well no one confirmed this report (if it's true) is talking about Voracek specifically. That's just the name Friedman plucked out of the air. The candidates likely are Hayes, Voracek, JVR, Ghost, etc. to move out eventually

I got that, just sharing my opinion if they are talking about Voracek.

 

[Mike Jones]

Seattle will have their pick of a ton of decent cheap players. They need solid vets like Voracek also. It's not like he can't play anymore. He's not worth 8.2M at the moment, but that doesn't mean Seattle isn't willing to take him on for the ~50 points + leadership qualities.

I'm sure Seattle will act like they don't want him, all the while happy to get a good player + assets at the same time.

Lots of cheaper guys out there who can provide whatever leadership Seattle needs. They don't have to tie up that much cap space in order to get it.

If the Flyers want to get rid of Voracek's contract they should have to bid on it like everybody else.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Friedman is one of the best insiders working in the hockey world today you know

Maybe, but he also throws a lot of shit at the wall for those clicks & ad dollars

 

[FlyguyOX]

Only Fletcher would be idiotic enough to not only give away his teams leading scorer for free, but also to add assets on top to make sure the expansion team takes him.

Just a completely moronic fool.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Hmm 14 overall in this draft seems like not enough to take on Voraceck to be honest. I think Seattle should get a prospect on top, or maybe an unprotected future 1st. They are gonna have a lot of opportunities like this, and 8.25m x 3 is not trivial.

Get your head checked mate

 

[SwedishFire]

Voracek and the Philly 1st to me makes sense.

Seattle is going to be a bad team, and with Voracek moving, they could likely keep the chain going with retention.

For example:
Philly trades a 1st to Seattle for a 7th for them to select Jakub Voracek.
Seattle trades Jakub Voracek @50% to Edmonton for 2021 1st rounder, 2022 second rounder and Kailer Yamamoto

Why should Edmonton fleese themselfs with a 1st , young top6 player AND a second for a almost elite player

 

[pooch]

I want no parts of paying Seattle to take anyone.