Friedman: Flyers working with Seattle to move a High Salary Player (Potentially Voracek)

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[BritainStix]

Flyers "may". So basically utter bullshit.

Shocker.

 

[DarthProbert]

Flyers "may". So basically utter bullshit.

Shocker.

Not every trade discussion pans out you know.

 

[themelkman]

Flyers "may". So basically utter bullshit.

Shocker.

If I was gonna call bs on someone it probably wouldn’t be Friedman

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Flyers "may". So basically utter bullshit.

Shocker.

Friedman is one of the best insiders working in the hockey world today you know

 

[burstnbloom]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

 

[Mike Jones]

$8.2Million per season for the next three seasons? That's a commitment of 10% of Seattle's cap for the next three years.

Throw your bid on the pile Flyers.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I have to think it’d cost a lot for the Flyers. He still has significant term and he’s obviously aging/declining

 

[Cootsfanclub]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

Look at what Chuck did last expansion with Minnesota. He's in his own head and we're supposedly going after Jones too, if that pans out next offseason will be a wild one for cap management.
The team also wants a big shakeup to the core and AV's dog house is pretty big.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

I have to think it’d cost a lot for the Flyers. He still has significant term and he’s obviously aging/declining

He's had 3 straight seasons pacing for 66 points and just had his best season at even strength scoring. He hasn't shown any signs of decline, the two PPG seasons were outliers.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

Good question. I am curious as well. Flyers have 13M in cap space and not many re-signings required.

I would not be opposed to having Voracek on the Kraken but I doubt this is cheap for the Flyers. Not sure why they would want to do this?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Flyers: "Want Voracek?"

Kraken: "Sure. 2021 1st, Frost and York"

 

[Empoleon8771]

I feel like Philly is setting themselves up to make a run at Jones or Eichel, potentially both.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Frost + Wylie + 2nd?

 

[Prongo]

Flyers: "Want Voracek?"

Kraken: "Sure. 2021 1st, Frost and York"

Yea because Voracek is that crippling to a franchise…

 

[burstnbloom]

Look at what Chuck did last expansion with Minnesota. He's in his own head and we're supposedly going after Jones too, if that pans out next offseason will be a wild one for cap management.
The team also wants a big shakeup to the core and AV's dog house is pretty big.

Well let's hope for the Flyers sake he doesn't do that again but he's not trading a guy to protect Dumba this time.

 

[captainpaxil]

I tend to think expansion trades as involving upgrading or downgrading from another exposed player.
What's the value difference between jvr and voracek?

As a flyers fan the guys I'd be willing to pay for Seattle to take are hagg and Braun
If the idea is to get futures the difference between jvr/ghost/laughton and hagg is the highest
Rubstov/Ratcliffe and possibly a 2nd depending on which player we're talking about.

There's a long string of idiocy from being open to dealing voracek to thinking he's a cap dump. I'm not a Fletcher fan but I don't think he's That stupid

 

[JoemAvs]

I think the biggest winners out of this deal would be a few Philly media people...

 

[Jared Dunn]

Flyers fans, help us out. What would be the reason for this? They have plenty of cap space and not a ton of guys to sign. They could give Couts a $10m raise and be fine. I don't get it.

Looking to add Seth Jones with an extension methinks

 

[Sweetpotato]

Looking to add Seth Jones with an extension methinks

It's already been confirmed he won't extend with Philly at this time.

My guess is he wants to make it to FA and access all his options, go to the cities etc.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I have to think it’d cost a lot for the Flyers. He still has significant term and he’s obviously aging/declining

Flyers: "Want Voracek?"

Kraken: "Sure. 2021 1st, Frost and York"

You all know we're referring to Jake Voracek, right? Not like his one-legged twice-removed cousin or something.

Voracek is still very good and isn't showing signs of a big decline. Any team is lucky to have a Jake Voracek.

We're likely (if true) looking to move a top salary so we can sign Hamilton or Jones, which we need more than a top RW.

 

[Volica]

Voracek and the Philly 1st to me makes sense.

Seattle is going to be a bad team, and with Voracek moving, they could likely keep the chain going with retention.

For example:
Philly trades a 1st to Seattle for a 7th for them to select Jakub Voracek.
Seattle trades Jakub Voracek @50% to Edmonton for 2021 1st rounder, 2022 second rounder and Kailer Yamamoto

 

[Prongo]

If the price to move Voracek is the flyers 1st rounder this year (14th overall - really 13th because Arizona are a bunch of cheaters) then Fletcher should just not make the move. Way to steep of a price to pay for a player who isn’t washed up or on a hard decline.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Voracek, JVR, Ghost, Braun, Aube-Kubel, Hagg,

Those are likely who Seattle has to choose from philly. The first 3 are good players with high cap hits, the other 3 are meh to poor players with low cap hits.

JVR @ 7 mil for 2 years would probably be the best case for both teams. Jvr still produces and 2 years is a very reasonable comittment...and it clears cap for philly. Voracek is a bigger risk, so i could see why seattle would ask for a sweetener...but if im the flyers I let them take JVR for free.

Its possible they go for Hagg or braun for cheap D depth (hakstol loooooves hagg), but I dont see why theyd pass up on a proven 30 goal scorer at a fair price.

 

[P10p]

Can't wait to watch Fletcher botch another expansion draft.