Flyers pull goalie approximately 1 minute after being eliminated, gift Caps playoff spot

[CBJWerenski8]

I know he didn’t know until after the goal was scored, but that’s hilarious. I choose to believe torts just wanted the pens to miss it. Respect to torts

 

[WaW]

Terrible look for the NHL. Not saying there was any funny business, but you have to know where you stand and when you are eliminated you can’t decide things like that without a valid reason for doing so.

The whole system is just bogus. The tiebreaker metrics are entirely arbitrary. In the future the sport needs tiebreaker games and silly stuff like this won't matter nearly as much.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Point: “The NHL is rigged”

Argument: “They didn’t intervene for Detroit’s benefit”

Never said it was rigged. Flyers f***ed the Wings over from being negligent. NHL should make sure something like this never happens again.

And I have no allegiance to any of these teams.

 

[MessierII]

Why exactly did he pull a goalie in a 1-1 game?

They needed to win in regulation to make the playoffs

 

[CapsJunkie]

flyers played hard, intense game

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

It's a distraction to the current game being played. That's enough of a reason. They have no obligation to help or worry about any other teams playoff chances but their own.

Are you kidding? We are talking about a playoff race. Teams have so many employees at a game and a lot at ice level. Not all of them are doing something productive to help the team win at all times.

They should be able to monitor the playoff race.

 

[MessierII]

Are you kidding? We are talking about a playoff race. Teams have so many employees at a game and a lot at ice level. Not all of them are doing something productive to help the team win at all times.

They should be able to monitor the playoff race.

You can’t rely on 30 second news in this environment. There’s coaches challenges. That goal Detroit scored could have been determined to be 1” offside after a 5 minute review. You can’t rely on anything. Philly knew they had to win in regulation that’s it.

 

[PALE PWNR]

Are you kidding? We are talking about a playoff race. Teams have so many employees at a game and a lot at ice level. Not all of them are doing something productive to help the team win at all times.

They should be able to monitor the playoff race.

Again they have no obligation to be in tune with it. Regardless of the outcome of any games tonight. The only possible way for the flyers to make it was to win in regulation. There's no reason for them to have any thoughts other than we have to win in reg. If you want to blame someone blame the NHL for making the tiebreakers so convoluted that this type of situation can happen.

 

[Hammman]

Are you kidding? We are talking about a playoff race. Teams have so many employees at a game and a lot at ice level. Not all of them are doing something productive to help the team win at all times.

They should be able to monitor the playoff race.

Yes, but why should those employees bother to interrupt the players and head coach in the last game of the season when it won't impact their personal end result? What's the impetus from Random Flyers Employee #145 to say "Hey Torts, the rest of this game doesn't matter cause we've been eliminated."

 

[Ace]

This bag of nonsense man. Maybe if Detroit doesn’t take 59 minutes and 57 seconds to not be behind in the game this doesn’t happen. After a ridiculous icing call btw. They couldn’t have skated after that slow drifting puck any slower. Maybe don’t be losing the whole way so Philly isn’t thinking “man…they’re really going to blow this and we have a shot”. Or don’t lose to Ottawa so goddamned always.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Yes, but why should those employees bother to interrupt the players and head coach in the last game of the season when it won't impact their personal end result? What's the impetus from Random Flyers Employee #145 to say "Hey Torts, the rest of this game doesn't matter cause we've been eliminated."

Moving the goalposts. All you need is 1 person on the bench to have access to their phone and looking at the scores or receiving texts.

And no one said the game doesn’t matter. Going in a team should understand that if they are eliminated that maybe they should call off the dogs and just play it straight up. Same reason you stop pulling the goalie after the team scores 1 or 2 EN goals or teams stop fouling in basketball.

There’s an honor code.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

They were sitting on the bench hammering 12 oz Molson’s watching the Wings Habs game according to some on here.

You think they didn’t have someone checking the score? Detroit players sure knew the score of the Flyers game

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

All three of these teams absolutely blow chunks. Getting berthed a playoff spot because the other team had to pull their goalie in a 1-1 game.. the way the Caps celebrated lmaooooo

I was *praying* for Detroit to get in because the Rangers would've had an absolute field day. They're the Leafs with B- level forward talent opposed to A level talent. No one wants to play defense, everyone's trying to get cookies, Patty Kane is out there floating around taking penalties in OT and having zero impact at 5 on 5. Just a shittily constructed roster

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

There was a minute between the key moments. You have 30 assistants. You could have league officials at the game monitoring it also. There’s no good reason for why they shouldn’t know.

Why would they pull the goalie if they were eliminated? Doesn’t help them. They wouldn’t do that without the situation being what they thought it was. The onus is on them to be informed of where they stand so they don’t compromise the playoff race.

I’ve seen a lot of crazy shit said on here. Buy holy f*** this takes the cake. “Compromise the playoff race???” What the bloody f*** are you talking about?

 

[lidstromiscool]

Moving the goalposts. All you need is 1 person on the bench to have access to their phone and looking at the scores or receiving texts.

And no one said the game doesn’t matter. Going in a team should understand that if they are eliminated that maybe they should call off the dogs and just play it straight up. Same reason you stop pulling the goalie after the team scores 1 or 2 EN goals or teams stop fouling in basketball.

There’s an honor code.

League should have staggered the starts of the games so this very situation didn't happen. Start the Flyers game 15 minutes later. Easily avoidable. Not surprised with the leadership of the NHL, it is way behind that of what a professional league should have.

 

[gtrower]

Torts postgame. He was getting updates, knew Detroit was down, pulled the goalie, Caps scored, and THEN his assistant updated him that Detroit forced OT.

So if anything, he kept the goalie pulled after the Caps scored to push for a result even after knowing he was eliminated which could have only helped Detroit / Pitt.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I’ve seen a lot of crazy shit said on here. Buy holy f*** this takes the cake. “Compromise the playoff race???” What the bloody f*** are you talking about?

Taking your goalie out of the net when you can’t change your fate does do so.

 

[swiftwin]

It's a distraction to the current game being played. That's enough of a reason. They have no obligation to help or worry about any other teams playoff chances but their own.

Exactly this.

The score of the Detroit-Montreal game had absolutely zero impact on Tortorella's strategy. They needed a regulation win. Period. They could worry about the Detroit game after their game was over.

 

[albator71]

It's crazy that a team that has a goal differential of -37 will make the playoffs!!! How is that even possible???

 

[IafrateOvie34]

Agree,
Watching the facts as a fan makes it unreal.

I cheered for the wings goal as it was impressive with the timing.
One minute later, they got eliminated by an ENG.


In a few hours, a new thread, should the NHL changes the RW/ROW tie breaker rules?

As a fan who benefitted from getting the 8th EC seed, I'm all for this change. Do away with the shootout and 3 on 3 OT. Glad it took this type of butthurt to wake folks up and get the league's attention. Meanwhile, the Caps will take this gift and it's a new season now.

 

[gtrower]

League should have staggered the starts of the games so this very situation didn't happen. Start the Flyers game 15 minutes later. Easily avoidable. Not surprised with the leadership of the NHL, it is way behind that of what a professional league should have.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. What about Pitt playing tomorrow? If the Caps and Detroit both lost in OT they’d know they just needed a loser point to advance and could sit back. Were they supposed to move that game 15 minutes before Caps / Flyers too?

 

[swiftwin]

Torts postgame. He was getting updates, knew Detroit was down, pulled the goalie, Caps scored, and assistant updated him that Detroit forced OT.

So if anything, he kept the goalie pulled to push for a result even after knowing he was eliminated which could have only helped Detroit / Pitt.

Watch the video. At 1:55, he literally says he found out about Detroit going to OT right after the Caps scored the empty netter.

 

[BB79]

There was a minute between the key moments. You have 30 assistants. You could have league officials at the game monitoring it also. There’s no good reason for why they shouldn’t know.

Why would they pull the goalie if they were eliminated? Doesn’t help them. They wouldn’t do that without the situation being what they thought it was. The onus is on them to be informed of where they stand so they don’t compromise the playoff race.

A minute? That isn't much time at all. But again,why should the Flyers care? If they don't pull their goalie and still end up winning they'd be eliminated anyways. The Flyers only have to care about the Flyers. It isn't like they just did it to spite the Red Wings or help their rivals in Washington (probably the last thing thry would do)

The onus is on the Red Wings and Penguins to not suck and be in that situation in the first place. It probably stings if you're a Wings fan but it isn't like the Flyers are buddy-buddy with the Capitals either

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

Exactly this.

The score of the Detroit-Montreal game had absolutely zero impact on Tortorella's strategy. They needed a regulation win. Period. They could worry about the Detroit game after their game was over.

Right. If I am Torts I tell the players you focus on one thing winning. No other distractions. I can’t then coach not to win if that is my message to the players. He needs to be consistent.

 

[KCbus]

Torts postgame. He was getting updates, knew Detroit was down, pulled the goalie, Caps scored, and assistant updated him that Detroit forced OT.

So if anything, he kept the goalie pulled to push for a result even after knowing he was eliminated which could have only helped Detroit / Pitt.

That's pretty much the exact opposite of what I heard watching this clip. He said he didn't know Detroit went to OT until after.