Confirmed with Link: Flyers Acquire Braun for 41 overall + '20 3rd

[Starat327]

Bang on, Trouba was also a cap casualty, as they could of went one more year and dealt with him later, but cap wouldnt allow it

Teouba wasnt a cap casualty. It was getting a disgruntled player out of the locker room and getting some value before it was too late.

Cap is a secondary concern in the Trouba deal. You make room for players like Trouba. You dont do that for Braun.

 

[Tripod]

No, another team would have traded for him because second pairing RHD have value.

You're flipping out as bad as DFF did when the Flyers acquired Gudas.

100% agreed

 

[Beef Invictus]

neither did couturier.

Only if you dislike hat tricks and outplaying your opponents I guess

 

[Rich Nixon]

Only if you dislike hat tricks and outplaying your opponents I guess

Think he's referring to Gudas hurting him.

 

[Starat327]

Only if you dislike hat tricks and outplaying your opponents I guess

I think he was referencing Gudas' knee incident during practice.

 

[lancer247]

Gudas has never played the type of minutes either Niskanen or Braun consistently have for years, let alone in conference & Cup finals.

Braun is also really good on the PK, IIRC.
Last year of a contract so if the young guys step up he can be moved at the deadline.

Prov - Niskanen
Sanheim- Braun
Ghost - Myers
Morin

Hagg - traded

 

[bennysflyers16]

Teouba wasnt a cap casualty. It was getting a disgruntled player out of the locker room and getting some value before it was too late.

Cap is a secondary concern in the Trouba deal. You make room for players like Trouba. You dont do that for Braun.

They couldn't make room for Trouba even for one more year, the cap played big in not keeping him as their own rental

 

[Starat327]

They couldn't make room for Trouba even for one more year, the cap played big in not keeping him as their own rental

The only reason they moved on from Trouba is because he didnt want to be there. If he was willing to sign, he wouldn't have been a casualty at all.

 

[Tripod]

Check back on this deal when Stralman/Edler sign for 2 years $4.5M AAV.

And? Were they signing here? Guarantee?

Edler....a LHD....just what we need.

You make it seem like you get everything you want. You think Fletch wanted Braun over Trouba? Or maybe Trouba had a say in things too.

You just are really underrating Braun....and you can't deny it based on your Schlemko comment. Unless you have been drinking, you have no excuse for such foolishness.

 

[Jtown]

Only if you dislike hat tricks and outplaying your opponents I guess

clearly gudas didn't like that.

 

[bennysflyers16]

The only reason they moved on from Trouba is because he didnt want to be there. If he was willing to sign, he wouldn't have been a casualty at all.

They had his control for one more year, they could of kept him, nut salary cap wouldnt allow it with the other deals needed

 

[Tripod]

Braun is also really good on the PK, IIRC.
Last year of a contract so if the young guys step up he can be moved at the deadline.

Prov - Niskanen
Sanheim- Braun
Ghost - Myers
Morin

Hagg - traded

"like"

 

[deadhead]

I'm sure Fletcher has talked to every GM, asked about the price for Spurgeon, etc.
There are no decent D-men in FA left, and few available in trade, and even fewer RHD.

I also think that DEFENSE was the priority, we have FOUR defensemen with above average offensive skills, even with Provorov's limitations he's one of the best goal scoring D-men in the league. What we lacked were defensemen who knew how to play in their own end.

Repeat, we're throwing a 21 year old goaltender out there as our starter, protecting him isn't the worst use of assets.

 

[Starat327]

"like"

Lol, yall need to stop being so bad all the time.

 

[LeftHeartInSF]

Enjoy him. Hope he gives you some good hockey.

 

[Beef Invictus]

clearly gudas didn't like that.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

The one thing here, and I simply quote you because you are bringing it up.

What Niskanen and Braun HAVE done, to me doesn't hold as much value. There is a reason they have been identified as pieces that are expendable. Its because they are declining, and what they used to be able to do at such a quality level, is not the same as it is today/going forward.

Well, Braun just averaged over 21 minutes for a team one game away from the Cup final, & Niskanen averaged 25 minutes for the Cup winner the prior season while averaging 23 per game in the regular season for an excellent team.

Let’s not act like they’ve fallen off the cliffs & weren’t still taking on huge roles for 2 of the league’s very best teams. And let’s not undersell how much those two teams cap situations forced their hands. The Flyers had the cap room to take advantage, & a D that sure needed the defensive upgrades.

 

[achdumeingute]

The one thing here, and I simply quote you because you are bringing it up.

What Niskanen and Braun HAVE done, to me doesn't hold as much value. There is a reason they have been identified as pieces that are expendable. Its because they are declining, and what they used to be able to do at such a quality level, is not the same as it is today/going forward.

and if we resign him to an Amac deal it's a problem. As a one year stop gap...it's relatively a non issue.

 

[Striiker]

And? Were they signing here? Guarantee?

Edler....a LHD....just what we need.

You make it seem like you get everything you want. You think Fletch wanted Braun over Trouba? Or maybe Trouba had a say in things too.

You just are really underrating Braun....and you can't deny it based on your Schlemko comment. Unless you have been drinking, you have no excuse for such foolishness.

We won't know because he didn't even try.
He could have traded for Braun after FA if he had no luck.

And yeah, we actually did need a LD more than RD, that way he'd replace Morin/Hagg's spot on the 3rd pair, instead of taking Ghosts spot on the right side.

 

[Flyotes]

Price still seems steep. I wonder if they were worried someone else would trade for him. 2nd and 3rd for a possible rental? I wonder if waiting would have helped-- Sharks after signing EK seemed to need some cap flex.

 

[baudib1]

And? Were they signing here? Guarantee?

Edler....a LHD....just what we need.

You make it seem like you get everything you want. You think Fletch wanted Braun over Trouba? Or maybe Trouba had a say in things too.

You just are really underrating Braun....and you can't deny it based on your Schlemko comment. Unless you have been drinking, you have no excuse for such foolishness.

If this was 3 years ago, getting Niskanen and Braun would be terrific.

It's not 3 years ago.

 

[healthyscratch]

Looking forward to seeing the Braun extension.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Hopefully they don’t pigeon hole Braun into a top four role just off perception but I’m not holding breath.

 

[hatcher]

These are the type players we needed for our young d. I wanted Trouba but this is great and were not tied up with long contracts.

 

[Lindberg]

Price still seems steep. I wonder if they were worried someone else would trade for him. 2nd and 3rd for a possible rental? I wonder if waiting would have helped-- Sharks after signing EK seemed to need some cap flex.

You don't throw extra assets at a middling declining player because you're worried someone else is going to take him.