BurghThang
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Fleury a potential hall of famer?
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If he gets near or past 500 wins AND has a redeeming Cup winning run, he would almost have to be a lock. You'd have a hard time convincing anyone how a guy with that many wins and multiple cups could be kept out of the HOF.
There is a possibility he could end up the winningest goalie in NHL history.
10 seasons, 35 wins in each, that's 350. Add on 276, his current wins. He'd only be 56 off Brodeur at the moment. This is with a conservative 35 wins as well.
10 seasons, 35 wins in each, that's 350. Add on 276, his current wins. He'd only be 56 off Brodeur at the moment. This is with a conservative 35 wins as well.
I guess he has a shot if the hall of fame doesn't consider other facts such as sv%, GAA and the fact that he's been utterly pathetic in the playoffs for years
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Heads are going to explode because of this thread.
If Fleury does not win another cup, talk of his candidacy will always include "... but he won only one cup with a team with Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin and he had (at this point in his career) several awful playoffs."
And that will be a serious criticism to overcome.
That said, I think if he gets just one more Cup and cruises past the 500-win mark, he will get very serious consideration. Especially when voters consider his gold-medal winning performance in 2018 after the Canadian goaltending fiasco of 2014.
If Fleury does not win another cup, talk of his candidacy will always include "... but he won only one cup with a team with Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin and he had (at this point in his career) several awful playoffs."
And that will be a serious criticism to overcome.
That said, I think if he gets just one more Cup and cruises past the 500-win mark, he will get very serious consideration. Especially when voters consider his gold-medal winning performance in 2018 after the Canadian goaltending fiasco of 2014.
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So are goals against and most other goalie stats. One reason in my opinion that goalies are so hard to completely judge.
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I don't personally foresee Fleury's playoff woes continuing, but if they do, I think those who vote on Hall of Famers will make it very hard for him to get in. If he does turn his game around though, and he gets up over 500 wins with another Cup, and maybe even another Olympic medal...yeah, he will be in the Hall, and he should be.
And yeah, goaltending stats are predicated on the team and the system he plays behind. If a guy can get to 500 wins though...he's not doing that by fluke. I don't care what team he plays behind.
And yeah, goaltending stats are predicated on the team and the system he plays behind. If a guy can get to 500 wins though...he's not doing that by fluke. I don't care what team he plays behind.
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MAF has to prove people wrong. Its as simple as that. He has to mature at a later stage than other goalies and become clutch.Heads are going to explode because of this thread.
If Fleury does not win another cup, talk of his candidacy will always include "... but he won only one cup with a team with Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin and he had (at this point in his career) several awful playoffs."
And that will be a serious criticism to overcome.
That said, I think if he gets just one more Cup and cruises past the 500-win mark, he will get very serious consideration. Especially when voters consider his gold-medal winning performance in 2018 after the Canadian goaltending fiasco of 2014.
The HOF is a funny thing. There are some pretty average players that have been good but been on great teams. There are also some great players that don't have the glitzy stats because the team support has never been there.
skullman80
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You'd have to put a big * next to those wins, as how many of those came in the shootout compared to non shoot out wins for those other goalies.
Also.. no just no. I love the guy, but to me the HOF is for the very elite. This isn't the hall of very good.
Big McLargehuge
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Right now - reputation would overtake 'automatic' marks...but for him to get to those automatic marks would require him turning his game around and winning another Cup or two, which makes that possible.
Still seems about 5 years too soon to even be talking about such a possibility.
Still seems about 5 years too soon to even be talking about such a possibility.
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no, not even close. It's not hyperbole to say he's the worst playoff goalie of all time, especially if you take his numbers in context of the era he plays in.
Do people think Chris Osgood should be in the HoF?
The whole idea sounds like a basis for an upcoming Rossi article.
Do people think Chris Osgood should be in the HoF?
The whole idea sounds like a basis for an upcoming Rossi article.
To an extent yes, but SV% is the best stat to judge. Not perfect but should carry a hell of a lot more weight than wins.
A hall of famer should be someone special; fleury is just on the right team with extreme loyalty.
With his stats and playoff meltdowns... hall of fame is laughable to me. You can say stats don't tell the whole story, but i'd argue he's not better than his stats at all. He can be good, he can be bad, in the playoffs he sucks.
