Bidding wars start near the deadline tho.
I don't think our management staff has proven a rebuilt drafting and development system. I looks better on paper, sure, but proof is in the pudding. Until Gaudrea, Brossoit, Reinhart, etc. actually pan out as projected, how do you know it's working?It's been proven that teams don't need to tank to rebuild. We don't need to lose to rebuild. Of coarse drafting is important but so is developing those picks. The Flames HAVE rebuilt the devopmental and scouting.
Now it's time to turn the page with the product on the ice. Changed the coaching philosophy already so now it's players.
Last year when we lost players to injury our call-ups were the best players every game. They fought to stay in the line-up. Problem is there are only 1 or 2 spots to fight for right now. You can't expect Sven to blossom as a superstar if he plays in the 4th line with 4th line guys (see backlund, Boyd, Lombardi, etc)
We need to move Iggy for anything. We cannot re-sign him. Then we are stuck with relying on an aging vet to carry our team. We have to move Kipper because he has value to a contender. Or he can make a bubble team a contender. We have to move Cammy because he doesn't lead by example, he is small, and he seems to have lost a step. He doesn't score big goals and is also a liability injury wise. Plus he can also get us a decent return.
I am against moving Gio but will sacrifice the loss for a great return. But you must keep either him OR JBo. Not both.
The flames can trade those 4 players. Each of them can get you a wide variety of assets.
I mean remove production from those 4.....you can't get any worse than where we are today, right? In fact with the pieces you bring in we could be better with players fighting to stay on the roster.
Plus our cupboards get stocked with 3-4 first round picks in one season.
Then let GlenX, Tangs, the Czecks and our younger prospects run this fast paced hockey and try to add some real centers in FA or in the trades.
It's time, but we don't need to tank, we just need to move those 4 players (and 20mill in salary)
I don't think our management staff has proven a rebuilt drafting and development system. I looks better on paper, sure, but proof is in the pudding. Until Gaudrea, Brossoit, Reinhart, etc. actually pan out as projected, how do you know it's working?
And then examine the development side. What's going on with Irving? Why was Baerstchi on the 4th line?
I completely disagree. Baerstchi brought more energy than Cammy to start the season, perhaps even Iginla, so if we're going to use the "winning" argument, Baerstchi in the top 9 gave us a better opportunity to win than some other people.I answered your questions. With all this 'talent' on our top six (Iggy, Tangs, Cammy, Hudler, etc) you don't have room for Baertschi. That's why Iggy and Cammy have to go.
As for Irving, we have a top 5 goalie. Nuff said. And Troy ward is not to blame for Irving not playing in the AHL. To breed winners you need a winning team. If Tayor or Brust give u a better shot at winning, they play. You cannot sacrifice an entire lineup of prospects development on one goalie prospect. You can't blame anyone but Kipper really we have a borderline playoff team that relies on his play to get us there.
Remember that King is an expert at talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Of course they didn't invest $80 million for him to win somewhere else and want him to help the Flames win. This tells me at least one thing - he's not going to walk away at UFA for nothing, and that by the deadline if there's no agreement on a contact extension Iginla is as good as gone.
Missing the playoffs year after year will start to drive the fans away, and the team will start losing significant money again. Prior to the "young guns" era, it took six first round exits and another 3-4 years of missing the playoffs before this team got into serious trouble with a disinterested fan base. Guess what? We're almost there now. I suspect that the waiting list for season tickets is starting to get shorter. I know the casual Flames fan (between the lockout and underwhelming performances) doesn't care anymore.
If ownership cares about making money, they need to be concerned about having a competitive team.
Or maybe this is the "blow it up" rebuild that everyone's been clamouring for? Lose a bunch of games, but under the guise of "being competitive" under the watch of Feaster & Hartley (aka: the scapegoats)
I completely disagree. Baerstchi brought more energy than Cammy to start the season, perhaps even Iginla, so if we're going to use the "winning" argument, Baerstchi in the top 9 gave us a better opportunity to win than some other people.
And regarding Irving, all I ask is this: How do we know Irving wasn't our best chance at winning? I ask because I'm pretty sure he played lights out the season before last and carried the Heat. He didn't have enough crease time last year to prove he wasn't the best option.
Excellent post Stewie! Send this in an email to Ken King please!
Gord Miller at the end of tonight's broadcast (vs L.A.) said the Flames will need to go 22-11 the rest of the way to make the playoffs. That's a .666% clip! Good night nurse.
I hope we get better 5,6 defenseman. Butler, Sarich and Smith are brutal.
This. Someone needs to send an email to Ken King telling him we cannot win with this core of players.
I hope we get better 5,6 defenseman. Butler, Sarich and Smith are brutal.
Here's my two cents: if the plan is to move Iginla then King is saying the right things. If the other GM's believe that you're happy to keep him then they'll have to overpay to get him out of Calgary. On the other hand, if they know you want to move him then they don't have to pay top-dollar, they just need to pay more than the next guy in line.
At this point, I don't think that Iginla is "on the block" to be sold to the highest bidder but rather can be available if the right offer comes along.
If Iginla is to be gone this season (which most of us agree is for the best), then he should be dealt earlier rather than the deadline.
The longer we keep him, the longer we stay in that midrange. Let him go to a contender, and have time to form chemistry on his new team. The only downside is not knowing right now which teams will be top contenders in a couple months.
Here's my two cents: if the plan is to move Iginla then King is saying the right things. If the other GM's believe that you're happy to keep him then they'll have to overpay to get him out of Calgary. On the other hand, if they know you want to move him then they don't have to pay top-dollar, they just need to pay more than the next guy in line.
At this point, I don't think that Iginla is "on the block" to be sold to the highest bidder but rather can be available if the right offer comes along.
Isnt that the Gm's job and not Ken king's?
Once again... who is running this team?
Isnt that the Gm's job and not Ken king's?
Once again... who is running this team?
I think it's everyone's job to ensure that a consistent message is being delivered, no?
Isnt that the Gm's job and not Ken king's?
Once again... who is running this team?
On the bright side.. If there ever was a season where we could bottom out quickly, grab a young impact player and recover, it's this one.. If that means trading Iggy than so be it. He deserves a cup..