Weekes: Flames, Devils, Kings, Bruins all in on goalie discussions, including potential 3 way deals

[Raccoon Jesus]

Cammy was just about fit, low cap hit one year deal. no skin in the game for Blake.

Petersen, I think was more obvious than PLD and he needed cap to re-sign gavrikov to salvage a previous big move.

Sure, but that just shows how quickly he's willing to adjust.

Again I'm the farthest thing in the world from a Blake defender but that's one thing that's impressed me about him his whole tenure, I know there are 1-2 more examples at the very least

Of course, we'd far prefer he stops making bigger and bigger mistakes in the first place, but that's a different issue...

 

[Edmonton East]

There's zero chance the Devs offered Holtz and a 1st (+ potentially more) for Markstrom. You people are delusional.

 

[Forge]

Logic and intelligent thought is not allowed here.

It's also kinda hilarious that Devils fans balk at Markstrom's contract, but want Ullmark who only makes a million less and is a UFA in a year, and is likely to demand a massive contract.

I don't know about massive. I would expect something like 5 years at 6 million or something. I think the most obvious comp there is Kuemper and adjust for inflation and a cap that is no longer projected to be locked up moving forward.

But that said, you're then committing 6 years to Ullmark, and I think the term may be what scares people the most about goalies. If Markstrom blows, you can get away from it relatively painlessly given that you're not going to do anything until the last year of his deal.

Also, we know that Markstrom can play 55 games a year. Ullmark is a #1 goaltender who thus far hasn't really done the #1 goalie workload.

 

[chris kontos]

That PLD trade should cost Blake his job. If he could somehow move him out for a top goalie it would be monumental.

it should cost blake his job and the trade should be investigated by the nhl etc.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Logic and intelligent thought is not allowed here.

It's also kinda hilarious that Devils fans balk at Markstrom's contract, but want Ullmark who only makes a million less and is a UFA in a year, and is likely to demand a massive contract.

We will see what the market is for him, if there isn’t a market now with numerous teams willing to eat salary, why would there be more teams in the summer?

 

[Double Dion]

There's zero chance the Devs offered Holtz and a 1st (+ potentially more) for Markstrom. You people are delusional.

We once paid a top 12 1st and 2 2nds for Travis Hamonic. Sean Monahan brought back a 1st+. I've learned to never think I know anything for sure.

 

[Reaper45]

I think Dubois will be the first to admit he’s had a shit year. But you see the flashes of talent and chippyness. I’m willing to give him another season to get his shit together.

 

[YP44]

There's zero chance the Devs offered Holtz and a 1st (+ potentially more) for Markstrom. You people are delusional.

if there was retention I do not think it is out of the question.

Mercer is out of the question though

I think Dubois will be the first to admit he’s had a shit year. But you see the flashes of talent and chippyness. I’m willing to give him another season to get his shit together.

issue is his NMC kicks in this summer. He has been better under Hiller. One argument i hear for PLD is that he has had reduced minutes with lower quality line mates. I have time for this argument, but really shows why we should not got him for a #3 center role to begin with.

 

[kinghock]

I think Dubois will be the first to admit he’s had a shit year. But you see the flashes of talent and chippyness. I’m willing to give him another season to get his shit together.

I second this notion.

 

[LAKings88]

I think Dubois will be the first to admit he’s had a shit year. But you see the flashes of talent and chippyness. I’m willing to give him another season to get his shit together.

How many fan bases have said this now? Dude shows up 1/10 games.

 

[Forge]

There's zero chance the Devs offered Holtz and a 1st (+ potentially more) for Markstrom. You people are delusional.

Wouldn't surprise me if first + Holtz was on the table. Kuemper was a first + Timmins. Maybe the devils get something very minor back to fill in a gap.

 

[Some Other Flame]

There's zero chance the Devs offered Holtz and a 1st (+ potentially more) for Markstrom. You people are delusional.

lol did you hear Fitz speak about Holtz? It's been pretty obvious for quite some time that they're not at all high on that player.

And it's beginning to look like that feeling is shared around the league - the Sharks passed on Holtz to take Mukhamadullin and now the Flames passed too.

 

[tny760]

How many fan bases have said this now? Dude shows up 1/10 games.

yeah i'm not onboard with paying a guy over $8.5M in real dollars to get him to START playing up to snuff

plenty of guys i'm willing to let learn on the job for league min

 

[YAYSAY]

I think Dubois will be the first to admit he’s had a shit year. But you see the flashes of talent and chippyness. I’m willing to give him another season to get his shit together.

That's all he's ever been though, occasional flashes of talent. Everyone gives Ryan Johansen crap for being a lazy player who could have been great, PLD is basically RyJo 2.0, except RyJo had already had a better season by this point in PLD's career.

 

[thaman8765678]

I think we can close this rumor. Murray Edwards won't allow the Flames to trade Markstrom, so unless it's Vladar not happening.

 

[YP44]

I think we can close this rumor. Murray Edwards won't allow the Flames to trade Markstrom, so unless it's Vladar not happening.

well he would not allow retention at least.

 

[AcerComputer]

I think Dubois will be the first to admit he’s had a shit year. But you see the flashes of talent and chippyness. I’m willing to give him another season to get his shit together.

You have no choice. If it makes you feel better Jeff Skinner had a brutal first 2 year after signing his big $9m contract with BUF, but then bounced back.

 

[SPV]

Need to get Swayman re-signed in the next hour+, but I'd consider Siegs, Schmid, and a 1st for Ullmark a decent success for Boston. Get a solid top 4 defender, a decent young backup for Sway, and a pick. Ullmark probably doesn't waive though; unless Jersey isn't on his NTC list already.

 

[Lt Dan]

How many fan bases have said this now? Dude shows up 1/10 games.

^^^^^^^^This can never be posted often enough

LAK88 on point as always

PLD=
Perpetually
Lazy
Dude

 

[viper0220]

Weekes is just making up shit, hopefully he loses the "insider" status. Asshole is a hack.

 

[YP44]

ALlen to NJ should officially kill this

 

[wintersej]

ALlen to NJ should officially kill this

I mean not the LA/Boston variants.

 

[kilowatt]

PLD showed up last night and had a monster game, funny enough. Him and Fiala were money.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

ALlen to NJ should officially kill this

TSN is saying Allen simply gets the Kids out of the lineup because they clearly aren't ready. Also that Allen can back up Markstrom, which would make Vanecek obviously part of any return to Calgary

 

[PB37]

Apparently Bruins had a Ullmark trade done but he invoked his NTC rights.