GDT: FLAMES (37-27-17) vs. SHARKS (22-42-16) | 8 p.m. MT | TV: Sportsnet | RADIO: Sportsnet 960 The FAN

[OvermanKingGainer]

Guys

this team could have won the Stanley Cup with a 2004 Kipper / 2012 Quick / 2016 Murray /2019 Binnington type run if we had called Wolf up sooner

Treliving NEEDS to be fired

 

[super6646]

Didn’t like the first rebound, but wolf was better than vladar or markstrom for 90% of the season.

Can’t believe those two bums sunk our season and we didn’t call wolf up. Hilarious.

Guys

this team could have won the Stanley Cup with a 2004 Kipper / 2012 Quick / 2016 Murray /2019 Binnington type run if we had called Wolf up sooner

Treliving NEEDS to be fired

You think sutter plays him? Hahahahahahahaha!!!!

Both of them need to be fired.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Didn’t like the first rebound, but wolf was better than vladar or markstrom for 90% of the season.

Can’t believe those two bums sunk our season and we didn’t call wolf up. Hilarious.



You think sutter plays him? Hahahahahahahaha!!!!

Both of them need to be fired.

A good GM forces his coach's hand with trades and limited options.

 

[JPeeper]

Some dark years ahead but a good goalie can make hide a lot of holes. Maybe Wolf can start a quick 3-year turnaround.

Dube and Mangiapane... man what happened to them?

Dube is what I expected from him, around 20 goals, mid 40's points. I mean he also played on the topline for a good majority of the year though which he is really isn't a top liner, he's a good 3rd liner like Coleman, 2B winger at best. He was never a huge point guy in junior.

Mangiapane though took a massive step back, he still has a wicked shot and should be a consistent 30 goal guy, but he needs to pick it up next year especially with his new contract.

Honestly if Markstrom plays even average for a majority of the year the Flames are easily in the playoffs.

Who knows though, Backlund just put up a career year at his age and he was one of our better players. Weegar had 11 points in the last 14 games of the season, getting only like 20 the previous 68. Huberdeau was pretty good the past month.

 

[JPeeper]

Huge x-factor is also Kadri, pretty much the whole team is a +, other than all the 4th line who are all -'s. But Kadri is a -20. Next closest forward who isn't a 4th liner is Dube at -6.

Bruh

This is one time where +/- is actually a good stat because IMO it compeltely showed on the ice, his effort level for a lot of the season was pathetic, tons of dumb soft plays, dumb turnovers, etc.

 

[super6646]

A good GM forces his coach's hand with trades and limited options.

Okay, who was taking our present two goalies?

The coach’s hand shouldn’t have to be forced. If he wasn’t a stubborn dumbass we make the playoffs. Both should be held accountable for this disgrace of a season.

 

[Bounces R Way]

It was nice vastly outshooting an opponent and getting a win. Had almost forgot what that felt like this season.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Okay, who was taking our present two goalies?

The coach’s hand shouldn’t have to be forced. If he wasn’t a stubborn dumbass we make the playoffs. Both should be held accountable for this disgrace of a season.

First of all Vladar doesn't need to be moved. Only Markstrom. And Vladar had a winning record this year. 14-6-5 is a 108 point pace and he beat some pretty good teams, he wasn't the one who lost three times to the Bedardhawks.

Second all coaches' hands have to be forced at some point.

Third, a team tanking for Bedard like San Jose, Columbus or Chicago would take Marky if the incentive were there. The toughest thing is the NMC, but once a player knows they are not wanted they aren't too difficult with that (see MAF waiving his NMC multiple times, and MAF is twice the goalie Marky is)

 

[super6646]

First of all Vladar doesn't need to be moved. Only Markstrom. And Vladar had a winning record this year. 14-6-5 is a 108 point pace and he beat some pretty good teams, he wasn't the one who lost three times to the Bedardhawks.

Second all coaches' hands have to be forced at some point.

Third, a team tanking for Bedard like San Jose, Columbus or Chicago would take Marky if the incentive were there. The toughest thing is the NMC, but once a player knows they are not wanted they aren't too difficult with that (see MAF waiving his NMC multiple times, and MAF is twice the goalie Marky is)

The incentive is multiple firsts, which this team should not he pissing away. And where is the incentive for markstrom to waive when he knows it’s probably his last major contract anyways? He sure as shit isn’t getting another payday at 36, and he just had a kid too lol. You can’t assume that just because MAF waived his nmc that markstrom will, he might have totally different aspirations and wants at this point in his life.

We move vladar because he’s the only one that can be moved without pissing more assets for an asset poor team. If this team is promoting merit, wolf is likely the starter soon enough anyways which mitigates the decline of marky anyways.

Again, there was no way of moving marky during the season that was remotely reasonable. Both brad and sutter made their bed.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Anyways, with only guys like Wolf, Coronato, and Pelletier having something to play for, expect them to be flying while the rest of the roster goes through the motions. One of Pelletier or Coronato scores tonight or atleast sets up a goal, Wolf puts on a show, and we have a very measured and reasonable response on this board about dinosaurs ruining our season or something.

Jeez it would've been nice to have that offensive flair in the lineup weeks earlier

Solid game by the big bad Wolf

Hat trick was cool but ensures the Flames are getting the 16th pick, so yay I guess


Wolf and Coronato were good. Thank goodness they waited so long to play them; they might have helped the Flames make the playoffs or something and that would have been bad.

Guys

this team could have won the Stanley Cup with a 2004 Kipper / 2012 Quick / 2016 Murray /2019 Binnington type run if we had called Wolf up sooner

Treliving NEEDS to be fired

Something about a broken clock being right, or something along those lines.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Gosh, I would trade everyone on our Blueline from this year for EK65 except for Tanev

Kylington-Tanev
RandomDude-Karlsson
Poirier-RandomDudeTwo


Elite Blueline

I am fairly certain having a blue line that has Kylington, Karlsson, and Poirier on the ice at any given moment is considered a war crime in most countries against whatever poor goalie has to defend for that team. Kylington might actually be the best defensively of that group, and while I like him he shouldn’t be head and shoulders above any field in that regard. Karlsson being a defensive liability was an over exaggerated talking point earlier in his career but it’s been BAD this season.

 

[Kranix]

Good to see people satisfied after one game of Wolf that he would have taken the team to the cup this year. Is Coronato a 30 goal scorer in the NHL based off of tonight?

 

[Master Bill]

Something about a broken clock being right, or something along those lines.

What's wrong with using young guys who have something to play for to the team's advantage?

Good on you for acting like some prophet but this team needed a spark weeks earlier when they were unable to beat out-of-playoff teams, but a senile approach to a now young man's game is what ultimately led this team down the drain.

 

[DomBarr]

Guys

this team could have won the Stanley Cup with a 2004 Kipper / 2012 Quick / 2016 Murray /2019 Binnington type run if we had called Wolf up sooner

Treliving NEEDS to be fired

he is not going to be fired...he is just going to be given 2 months vacation

 

[23Monahan]

I reallt don't think it'll be that dark. We aren't a great team but we actually have good prospects and with a coach that has better usage of our players well be fine.

Exactly. We are just good enough to not suck, but just bad enough to not win. IMO that's as dark as it gets for a team, being stuck in a wave of mediocrity like some sort of hockey purgatory.

Also compared to other teams we have very mediocre prospects. And all we need to do to fix it is change our franchises mentality that it has had for decades and won't change even though it is painfully obvious? That's That's we need to do?

I was thinking trying to only keep Tanev from this year's blueline

otherwise I'd probably let Poirier develop another year barring injury and go with

Kylington-Weegar
Zadorov-Karlsson
Stecher-Tanev

Yes let's fix our problems by bringing in another 30+ player making 10+million dollars after coming off a career year on a team where he could literally float around and only play offense.

 

[super6646]

Good to see people satisfied after one game of Wolf that he would have taken the team to the cup this year. Is Coronato a 30 goal scorer in the NHL based off of tonight?

Literally no one said this.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I am fairly certain having a blue line that has Kylington, Karlsson, and Poirier on the ice at any given moment is considered a war crime in most countries against whatever poor goalie has to defend for that team. Kylington might actually be the best defensively of that group, and while I like him he shouldn’t be head and shoulders above any field in that regard. Karlsson being a defensive liability was an over exaggerated talking point earlier in his career but it’s been BAD this season.

Other team can't score if they never have the puck.

 

[Kranix]

Literally no one said this.

OKG said it and you quoted the post and agreed with the premise.

 

[super6646]

OKG said it and you quoted the post and agreed with the premise.

Okay, one person said it. The most hyperbolic poster on this board, and I certainly did not agree with that part of the premise. The team being better with him in net? It’s quick likely that would’ve been the case.

 

[Roadrage]

Wow...Coronato actually played more then Huberdeau last night. Mind you it was just 4 seconds more but stunning to see Huberdeau play under 15 minutes. Less average ice time this season then his rookie year.

Wolf, Coronato, and Pelltier played really well last night. Hope Coronato and Pelltier get more ice time next season. Wolf will play 1 more season with the Wranglers with the odd spot start (maybe 4 or 5 games) during season and then be with the Flames full time in 24/25 barring any injury to Markstrom/Vladar.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Wow...Coronato actually played more then Huberdeau last night. Mind you it was just 4 seconds more but stunning to see Huberdeau play under 15 minutes. Less average ice time this season then his rookie year.

Wolf, Coronato, and Pelltier played really well last night. Hope Coronato and Pelltier get more ice time next season. Wolf will play 1 more season with the Wranglers with the odd spot start (maybe 4 or 5 games) during season and then be with the Flames full time in 24/25 barring any injury to Markstrom/Vladar.

Huberdeau had a lot of 15 minute nights this season because the clownasaurus of a coach very obviously didn't like him. He that made horribly clear all year with his usage, linemates, and the infamous "he had to take a shit" comment. Just one of many, many, reasons why Dutter will get sent back to the farm.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Something about a broken clock being right, or something along those lines.

lol

It's actually amazing and probably miraculous that you managed to realize that prospects have something to play for (e.g. security and increased compensation). But then of course the obstinance kicks in so you have to, somehow, magically, conclude that that whole intrinsic motivation wouldn't have also applied earlier in the season.

I've said this all season but the mental gymnastics that the dutter cultists go through to pretend like he isn't some horribly out of touch clownasaurus is fascinating in how sad it is.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Wow...Coronato actually played more then Huberdeau last night. Mind you it was just 4 seconds more but stunning to see Huberdeau play under 15 minutes. Less average ice time this season then his rookie year.

Wolf, Coronato, and Pelltier played really well last night. Hope Coronato and Pelltier get more ice time next season. Wolf will play 1 more season with the Wranglers with the odd spot start (maybe 4 or 5 games) during season and then be with the Flames full time in 24/25 barring any injury to Markstrom/Vladar.

Calgary has to make a trade to be under the cap next year, and Vladar just makes the most sense to move I’d say, unless the team is planning a massive trade in the off-season. Doesn’t weaken our forwards and defense, and it has the easiest option for an internal replacement in Wolf. Probably the most likely situation Also good news for the youth movement folks, Calgary quite literally can’t afford to not play the prospects.

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Coronato
Pelletier-Kadri-Toffoli
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman
Ruzicka-Dube-Duehr
League min veteran

Weegar-Andersson
Hanifin-Tanev
Kylington-Zadorov
Gilbert

Markstrom
Wolf

That’s a 22 man roster that just barely sneaks in under the cap.

 

[HighLifeMan]

If Kylington is LTIR'd a trade really isn't needed. We really are not backed into a corner.

Hanfin, Dube or Vladar seem like the most likely trade candidates to me, if a trade is ultimitely needed.

 

[Yepthatsme]

If Kylington is LTIR'd a trade really isn't needed. We really are not backed into a corner.

Hanfin, Dube or Vladar seem like the most likely trade candidates to me, if a trade is ultimitely needed.

If Kylington indicates he’s not coming back next season and gets LTIRed for another season which would be super unfortunate, I’d trade Dube and Vladar anyways, then use picks and prospects to go big name hunting for our last year before the UFAs need to be signed or dealt at the deadline. That’d be 7 million in cap between those 3 players we could use to add a big name RW to our roster. We are getting pretty far down the rabbit hole in hypotheticals here, but imagine taking advantage of Ottawas cap and adding Debrincat to this team while only losing Dube and Vladar from the current roster.