GDT: FLAMES (22-25-3) vs. JETS (27-21-3) 7.30 p.m. MT | TV: Sportsnet West

[lightstorm]

Man, and people are thinking we wont draft top 10 next year because "Sutter wont allow it"

Without Gaudreau they will be lucky to win 20 games next season.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Monahan's hands are just gone. 3 times tonight he's bobbled a simple pass.

I'm pretty sure he's playing with a broken something, again.

Speaking of playing through pain, I wish I didn't know what AMRAP means. I may die.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Oh nice, Ryan Leslie is back.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Go jets

 

[Volica]

Man, and people are thinking we wont draft top 10 next year because "Sutter wont allow it"

Without Gaudreau they will be lucky to win 20 games next season.

Legit.
Subtract Monahan, Gaudreau and Gio... imagine thinking this team won’t contend for the 32nd spot.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Would be awfully selfish of Monahan to be playing through yet another injury at this point. A real team first player would realize they're costing the team scoring opportunities and instead, take a break and let someone else come in and actually help the team.

 

[Corpus X]

Textbook

 

[super6646]

2 on 0 on the PK with nesterov.

Why is Sutter considered a good coach? The personnel decisions have been unjustifiable since he's come aboard.

Team is unwatchable too. I'm sure ratings have crashed.

 

[super6646]

At least other teams that suck have some young talent to be excited for. We have Nesterov and Ritchie getting key minutes.

Organization looks bleak right now.

 

[JPeeper]

Would be awfully selfish of Monahan to be playing through yet another injury at this point. A real team first player would realize they're costing the team scoring opportunities and instead, take a break and let someone else come in and actually help the team.

Monahan is helping the team, he is the true tank commander.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

2 on 0 on the PK with nesterov.

Why is Sutter considered a good coach? The personnel decisions have been unjustifiable since he's come aboard.

Team is unwatchable too. I'm sure ratings have crashed.

This is literally the definition of tanking my friend.

 

[super6646]

This is literally the definition of tanking my friend.

Right... so tank by scratching your young players and not giving anyone a chance whatsoever except Brett Ritchie. This has been going back far before we were officially "tanking".

 

[JPeeper]

Legit.
Subtract Monahan, Gaudreau and Gio... imagine thinking this team won’t contend for the 32nd spot.

Extra legit, if Monahan wasn't a broken down human and was on pace for his usual 30 goals the Flames are in a playoff position right now. This iteration of the Flames is basically minus Monahan and we're a bottom 10 team (surprise when he does bad we suck, when he does well we do well). Subtract the catalyst of this team, Gaudreau, we're easily a bottom 10 team, I will assume MUCH worse. This team is also essentially subtract Gio as he is cooked AF right now. Even though he is cooked, he still plays top positions and losing him and throwing the young guys/Nesterov into his position will be dreadful. If Vali made some progress it'd look different, but he's regressed quite a lot from pre-injury as has Andersson when he had to face tougher competition.

Either way, Gaudreau ain't here for Bedard's draft and all the old guys will be even older so we actually have a legit shot at him.

 

[super6646]

Extra legit, if Monahan wasn't a broken down human and was on pace for his usual 30 goals the Flames are in a playoff position right now. This iteration of the Flames is basically minus Monahan and we're a bottom 10 team (surprise when he does bad we suck, when he does well we do well). Subtract the catalyst of this team, Gaudreau, we're easily a bottom 10 team, I will assume MUCH worse. This team is also essentially subtract Gio as he is cooked AF right now. Even though he is cooked, he still plays top positions and losing him and throwing the young guys/Nesterov into his position will be dreadful. If Vali made some progress it'd look different, but he's regressed quite a lot from pre-injury as has Andersson when he had to face tougher competition.

Either way, Gaudreau ain't here for Bedard's draft and all the old guys will be even older so we actually have a legit shot at him.

Don't know where this comes from. Some rose tinted glasses from his play in his first stint... it wasn't that impressive.

He had 2 good playoffs games I guess, but people had expectations of Heiskenan lite and that was just ridiculous.

Otherwise idk. Andy ain't bad, but again I think it was a case of expecting too much. He'd be a fine second pairing guy, but we are essentially down a #1 and #2 caliber dman right now.

 

[lightstorm]

Sutter is playing 3D chess, using players like Ritchie Robinson and Nesterov who wont be back to drive the tank, so that Oliver, Ruzicka or Phillips wont have their spirits crushed (yet).

 

[JPeeper]

Don't know where this comes from. Some rose tinted glasses from his play in his first stint... it wasn't that impressive.

He had 2 good playoffs games I guess, but people had expectations of Heiskenan lite and that was just ridiculous.

Otherwise idk. Andy ain't bad, but again I think it was a case of expecting too much. He'd be a fine second pairing guy, but we are essentially down a #1 and #2 caliber dman right now.

He wasn't Heiskenan lite, but he was fairly solid. He was no where near this bad/useless before.

I still have hopes for him, but at this point Hanifin is the only guy trending to be a top pairing defender, whereas I see Andersson a solid 2nd line guy and Vali a solid 2nd line guy hopefully by next year. Flames could really use a Brandt Clarke.

 

[JPeeper]

LOL, Tkachuk went from celebrating a goal to being scored on in literally 4 seconds.

 

[super6646]

Every single high danger chance goes in on Marky. No, he hasn't been good enough this year

 

[Some Other Flame]

Amazing that folks thought Valimaki is/was better than Kylington

Almost criminal that Treliving wouldn't trade him for Stone.

 

[super6646]

He wasn't Heiskenan lite, but he was fairly solid. He was no where near this bad/useless before.

I still have hopes for him, but at this point Hanifin is the only guy trending to be a top pairing defender, whereas I see Andersson a solid 2nd line guy and Vali a solid 2nd line guy hopefully by next year. Flames could really use a Brandt Clarke.

Idk his possession metrics were pretty bad and he wasn't really producing either. Ik it might be a bad time to say it right now when he made that bad play, but he's a bottom pairing caliber dman now and was honestly about that 2 years ago.

 

[User1996]

Tied with the Sens after tonight.

Play Dominque every game against the Nucks

 

[JurassicTunga]

Kylington would have caught wheeler there.

 

[super6646]

Amazing that folks thought Valimaki is/was better than Kylington

Almost criminal that Treliving wouldn't trade him for Stone.

For rental Mark Stone? Imagine having even less young talent than we already have lol.

 

[super6646]

3 goals on 12 shots against. Pretty much every single breakdown is a goal against.

Couple that with the mistake free hockey we try to play and its a recipe for disaster. We can't score and our goalie isn't reliable.

 

[User1996]

Imagine seeing the strides Hanifin has taken this year and writing off a younger, more naturally skilled defenceman