Of course they love big players , who doesn't? It's a plus but look at who this management has drafted.
There's no tunnel vision here.
Post-Game Talk: FIRST BRO! Oilers vs Jets, 8:00
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Of course they love big players , who doesn't? It's a plus but look at who this management has drafted.
There's no tunnel vision here.
garret9
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At this point, I am seriously asking myself this question. Petan is the flat out better-skilled hockey player, just choosing between him and Lowry. Size is making the difference in this camp though and that is disappointing. Will we have to trade little or Perrault before another small centre makes it? Petan can surely shift to wing if that is what it takes.
Having said that, I think this was Lowry's best game so far. He does look like he fits. I wish Petan had had the linemates that he had in order to plead his case though.
Speaking of linemates, when Halischuk came in for Tangradi, that line looked moire dangerous right away.
veganhunter
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This is the first game where Lowry didn't look basically lost in the offensive end. The other aspects of his game have been very solid almost every shift though.
Joe Hallenback
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In regards to Lowry vs Petan sticking....
I am thinking both will get long looks due to the Galliardi injury.
I look forward to the "Size vs Skill" debate.
Ladies, would you care to add to this conversation?
There is no debate. Size does matter. It always has. That is why you have more "big" players then "small" players in any physical sport. I don't even know why people bring it up other then napoleon complex. If Ehlers or Petan are good enough it sure ain't because of their size so why bother talking about it?
One guys line really produced tonight and I think it was because of all 3 guys on the line. I thought Petan and Ehlers had spots tonight. My worry about them is they will fade as the season goes along due yes to their size and lack of experience at the pro level.
What I really think will happen is Ehlers and Petan go back to junior. Lowry gets a look and if he falters the tiniest bit will go down because he can. Gallardi or Halischuk step in then.
pucka lucka
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He was around the net because he linemates were awesome and he pitched in well. He did not create that offense. I don't have it out for Lowry like some other pro scouts here like push the discussion. [mod] Yeah, I love Petan much morer. He's my favouritest.
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I don't think he looked lost at all early on. Maybe a step behind but not tonight and yes he played with two guys who are great for possession but the nice thing is he really fit in. He is everything that Tangradi was supposed to be and he too me is the most ready out of our prospects. Ehlers and Petan are just a tad bit behind him but they will have there day just like Scheifele did. I am not saying Lowry is better but [mod] Lowry might be more prepared to step in the NHL right now.
This team isn't going to win with 18 and 19 year olds in the lineup next year and my personal belief after watching them is they are not ready this year. Next year will be different but not this year.
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Hunter368
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I'm not as high on Lowry as some are here either, potential is there just don't think he's ready yet.
ICdave
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Coach Maurice - How does he assess that game? Any individuals stand out for him? What made that line (Lowry-Perreault-Frolik) so successful tonight? Updates on injured players (Tangradi, Cormier). Is he getting some answers to his questions? Does he need to get numbers down to make it easier for himself? What did he think of Danny Taylor? Thoughts on Hutchinson?
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True Joe. True.
Not burning up contract time on Ehlers and Petan makes sense. But as a hockey fan I want to see Petan make it. I am sick and tired of the zeros on our powerplay.
Ehlers is going to be off the charts good. His ceiling is "The Right Stuff" but it makes sense to send him down.
Lowry our 4th line centre for next year and many years. Let him play centre in the AHL this year to gain strength at that position.
I think Petan adds more overall on the Powerplay as he is amazing with his ability 5 on 4. He is also not a liability on defense even strength for sure.
Over the short term. I want to see both in a 9 game tryout; that was the gist of my post. That, and a sexual innuendo with some of my equality suck up approach to the womens of the world to interject.
I almost always agree with you Joe. But not on this one in the context you presented.
veganhunter
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I think the "big" thing gets a little overrated because of the Kings winning. Two of the teams in the conference finals were about middle of the pack size wise and another was the smallest teams in the league. Did the Kings size play a factor in their win? To some extent I'd say, but I think it had more to do with their ridiculous depth and flawless defensive game.
Blue Shakehead
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Prospects ranked by Potential
Ehlers
Petan
Lowry
Prospects ranked by NHL readiness:
Lowry
Petan
Ehlers
Ehlers
Petan
Lowry
Prospects ranked by NHL readiness:
Lowry
Petan
Ehlers
Sorry man I just don't this. Lowry had the best game of any prospect so for this season...and believe it or not that type of thing is good. I'm under the impression we want our prospects to be good and push for roster positions. And liking Lowry's game doesn't mean I don't like other prospects. Actually I've been advocating for Petan more than any of them, but tonight Lowry showed more.
Tom ServoMST3K
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Of the three (Lowry, Ehlers, Petan) I guess that Lowry would develop best in a third line NHL role, while Petan and Ehlers would benefit more from junior.
garret9
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Not sure I agree with you Surge...
I think Petan may be equally if not more ready.
At this point the difference with him and Lowry could have been mostly from Lowry benefiting from better/easier deployment.
I thought Lowry played well. Nothing against him at all.
I think Petan may be equally if not more ready.
At this point the difference with him and Lowry could have been mostly from Lowry benefiting from better/easier deployment.
I thought Lowry played well. Nothing against him at all.
pucka lucka
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I don't agree that Lowry showed more. His line showed more, so he had more high profile events. I did notice Lowry has a better release than I thought he had.
Go back and watch the game and follow Petan. Like ignore the rest of the game except for mighty Mouse.
As a LW he is imo . He can bring a lot of elements that offset the offense at this time. He controls the puck well, add that to being smart on the ice and elite size and you could see games like tonight more than not. This way the offense doesn't have to flow through him right now and the emphasis of what he can and does do well is on just that.
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tntkid
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It may be a little early to panic but I think we may need an NHL caliber starting goalie in Winnipeg soon.
Blue Shakehead
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Lowry is the most NHL ready to me because of all the little things he does - positioning, in puck battles, net front presence, kills penalties, but most importantly.....is very safe. Coaches love safe.
They are very different players. I'm not saying a Petan isn't ready, I'm saying Lowry is more ready in the sense that you could slot him in on the 3rd or 4th line and nobody would notice.
Go back and watch the MP85 goal tonight. Lowry gets open, makes a quick pass to Perrault and then immediately drives himself and the Edmonton defender to the net, screening Fasth. It's that stuff that has all the coaches talking.
veganhunter
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I like Lowry and I think he ultimately tops out as a good/very good 3rd liner but if we have dreams of running 3 scoring lines this year I'm just not sure he is that guy at this point. Though, tonight was a step in the right direction for him offensively.
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