Post-Game Talk: Finding ways to lose

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

That’s why Holland has to remake the d this off-season.

I sure hope Broberg advances fast.

 

[North]

If Doughty, Keith or Weber played for us and made a couple of mistakes guaranteed the same people on here would rip them apart

Nah every d man makes mistakes but Nurse makes mistakes that he never learns from.

 

[Stoneman89]

I didn't know laughing was childish. His assessment of the player was ludicrous. Almost as if he was biased against him

Your earlier response to me. "What's wrong with you? He has his opinion and you laugh at it like a child? Isn't that how I was when I came on here. You've been on here for a while and you're still acting like a kid"

Practice what you preach.

 

[KlefDown]

who tf said Nurse doesn't deserve 7m

edit: this is only for yesterday's game but still. He has been playing very well given the role he's been thrown in

 

[brentashton]

yes, yes they are

Sorry, it was a feeble “play” on a really annoying commercial that airs in Canada. I’m sure your pants are spectacular!

 

[McTonyBrar]

Nah every d man makes mistakes but Nurse makes mistakes that he never learns from.

You're incredible in such a bad way. I'll stop here

 

[McTonyBrar]

Your earlier response to me. "What's wrong with you? He has his opinion and you laugh at it like a child? Isn't that how I was when I came on here. You've been on here for a while and you're still acting like a kid"

Practice what you preach.

Thanks Stoneman

 

[North]

You're incredible in such a bad way. I'll stop here

Ultimately we aren’t going to convince each other of anything.

We’re stuck with Nurse so hopefully he learns to defend at some point.

 

[McSuper]

Calling it now. This is the worst Oilers team of the McDavid era. We'll finish 6th in the North and around 28th in the league.

Seems about right . Loser lose . Winners find a way to get it done . Playoffs twice in 15 years . Like the say a blind dog will find a bone by once in a while .

 

[gordonhught]

Sorry, it was a feeble “play” on a really annoying commercial that airs in Canada. I’m sure your pants are spectacular!

I have some nice jeans and a great pair of dress pants from the Bay

the dress pants are black and the jeans are blue

 

[KlefDown]

I hate the people who preach "patience". McDavid is 24 already. Do you want him to have a Joe Thornton/Jarome Iginla type career?
If we don't start winning, it's just a matter of time till he wants out.

 

[McDNicks17]

3-6 start is likely curtains on a 56 game season.

I know it may be a bit different because of ALL divisional play, but the average points per game it's taken for teams to make the playoffs over the last 5 years is 1.13. Means the Oilers need 57~ points in their final 47 games.

26-17-4.... 27-17-3.. something along those lines. They aren't doing this running Koskinen into the ground, and they aren't doing it with Barrie over Klefbom.

If I was Nuge, wouldn't even sign here if they offered me $7 mil. I'd be getting the f*** out.

If I were Nuge, I'd show an ounce of effort and try to do literally anything without being dragged along by McDavid or Draisaitl.

The guy is close to the lowest energy player in the league. No wonder this team comes out flat when one of the so called leaders plays like he downed a whole bottle of sleeping pills before every game.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Some bright spots...lol

- Caleb Jones had a decent game. Not great, but steady. Baby steps. Hopefully he can build on it.
- Drai was great again, but is getting very little help at evens. Ymao provides a bit of spark, but Kahun has no hands, and plays on the perimeter most of the time.
- McDavid was also great, with very little help.
- Nurse had his best game of the year, IMO

To me, it's become clear. Not only are we wasting McDavid and Drai at evens, but the people on their lines are drowning. Enough with the f***ing Kahun/Drai experiment. We've lost Nuge as a result and are at risk of completely losing Yamo. We need both of them to step it up big time, especially Nuge. Put him back on the DRY line, and put Kahun with McDavid, if you must play him in a top 6 spot. McDavid does a lot of his work solo anyhow, so if it somehow works, great.

I thought Kahun had a good game but he can’t finish. Hopefully it’s one of those things when he scores, they will start going in. I guess same can be said for Puljujarvi, Barrie, etc

 

[tardigrade81]

Basketball is not a legit comparison due to how much two players can play in the game, and the limited roster and how much of a component just 2 players can be on a team.

Football, I grant you but with proviso that QB position determines results, or can, even more than goaltending. Baseball? Pitching and Hitting is King?

The trouble with the Oilers is they are successor of the Socialist draft system, where the worst clubs get the best picks. Pitts got Crosby not because they were worst, they won a lottery due to a lockout season as I recall.
The Oilers got all the first picks they did because they are a grossly incompetent org, which has just continued on the same path of being grossly incompetent. Not entirely surprising. Nothing really changed.

Nicholson was never an answer. Just what I call a gladhander hanger on. The type of person that doesn't know a lick more than another GM, he just has the good contacts. Which means he always has a job, not that he's necessarily better than others would be. This is the person that our previous dunderheads chose to hire. Incompetence begats incompetence.

No easy answers. As previous Ballard, and Wirtz demonstrated you could be incompetent for a long time and the whole org gets infected with it. It sounds silly, but you really do have to do a full flush and start over. The oilers didn't really do that, they still had the hangers on having input in decisions. Which they demonstrated they were imminently not qualified to do. i mean what kind of idiots fire Krueger, and hire Eakins, Chiarelli/Nicholson in succession. After having hired senile Pat Quinn.

The one opportunity to redirect that this org had, to potential excellence, was Kreuger, but MacT or Lowe were either too dense to understand or comprehend his acumen, or too threatened by it. Incompetent managers prefer to hire incompetent people. That way they limit competition for their own positions.

But yeah, the ineptitude of this org subsequent to the dynasty is pretty epic. Success can corrupt.

You’re right there. Lebron took some garbage Cavs teams to the finals multiple times. Curry is single handedly making golden state a decent competitor this year

hockey needs more than one guy.... for the most part. Mcdavid just can’t do it all on his own even with Draisaitl

 

[MaxR11]

I do think there's something to it. Why do players always underperform when they come here? None of our offseason signings have looked adequate so far. AA already has three goals with the Kings. Ennis meanwhile is waiver wire fodder, for instance.

That and this team for the last decade plus is often not ready to play at puck drop and let the other team dictate the game/pace. Often show lack of consistent urgency, intensity and effort compared to most other teams. Never seem to want to consistently and truly play responsible 200ft hockey after having it beat into them by numerous coaches.

Skill and talent is one thing, but everyone can give consistent effort/battle and play responsibly within a team concept. If that's not happening and it seems to be a recurring issue on the team for many years, there's something not quite right with the culture/leadership. These guys might get along fine but there seems to be a lack of high standards in what they do. They seem to get complacent. After they scored their 5v3 pp goal yesterday they seem to just get complacent/lackadaisical and piss away the rest of the 5v4 pp with lots of time left instead of having strong urgency. They only seem to consistently pick up the urgency when down a goal late in the third period.

 

[Ninety7]

who tf said Nurse doesn't deserve 7m

edit: this is only for yesterday's game but still. He has been playing very well given the role he's been thrown in

do you think nurse is a number 1 or 2 D?

 

[Porkleaker]

I sure hope Broberg advances fast.

If him and Bouchard aren't studs we're f***ed.

 

[Porkleaker]

do you think nurse is a number 1 or 2 D?

He's had some shaky moments but he improved the PP when Barrie couldn't get it up. Nurse does make some braindead moves and is getting more minutes than he should, if everything lined up perfectly we'd be complaining about Klefbom instead.

 

[Ninety7]

He's had some shaky moments but he improved the PP when Barrie couldn't get it up. Nurse does make some braindead moves and is getting more minutes than he should, if everything lined up perfectly we'd be complaining about Klefbom instead.

I’m not disagreeing with this, but to say he deserves to be paid 7m is kind of a head scratcher.

 

[McShogun99]

DRY
Neal-Mcdavid-JP
Chaisson-Turris-Kassian
Benson-McLeod-Bouchard

Nurae-Barrie
4K-Larsson
Jones-Bear

PP1
RNH-Mcdavid-Draisaitl-Neal
Bouchard

PP2
JP-Turris-Yamamoto-Chaisson
Barrie

PK1
RNH-Kassian
Nurse-Larsson

PK2
McLeod-Yamamoto
4K-Bear

P&3
Mcdavid-Draisaitl
Jones-Barrie

 

[Drivesaitl]

Ultimately we aren’t going to convince each other of anything.

We’re stuck with Nurse so hopefully he learns to defend at some point.

"Stuck with nurse" lmao. holy hot takes..

He's been our best D this season by miles.

 

[Cloned]

Which players would you keep?

Since everyone is talking about who they would keep...

 

[Magnum23]

Bear is getting exposed playing 1st pair minutes. His confidence is plummeting every game, please move him down to second and third pairing to help him get his confidence back

 

[Panda Bear]

who tf said Nurse doesn't deserve 7m

edit: this is only for yesterday's game but still. He has been playing very well given the role he's been thrown in

because you're using a sample size of like 7 games?

here's nurse across the entirety of the 19-20 regular season

 

[Tobias Kahun]

who tf said Nurse doesn't deserve 7m

edit: this is only for yesterday's game but still. He has been playing very well given the role he's been thrown in

Even funnier when people say hes worth 4-4.5 max.