Post-Game Talk: Finding ways to lose

[missinthejets]

He can’t though.

Nurse has been a problem too. Sometimes Bear is legitimately the better player on the pairing.

you are out of your mind. Nurse is playing really well this year. trouble is he is the only one on D.

 

[gordonhught]

I don't think the Oilers management reads the boards however.

Nurse has us over a barrel for his next negotiation and his agents know it.

maybe

LHD

2020/21
nurse
4K
Jones

2021/22
Klefbom
4K
Broberg

is dumping nurse in the offseason and using his money for another position really that big a drop off?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

maybe

LHD

2020/21
nurse
4K
Jones

2021/22
Klefbom
4K
Broberg

is dumping nurse in the offseason and using his money for another position really that big a drop off?

Yeah, Im not dumping Nurse and running with an unreliable Klefbom as our only top 4 left D.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

maybe

LHD

2020/21
nurse
4K
Jones

2021/22
Klefbom
4K
Broberg

is dumping nurse in the offseason and using his money for another position really that big a drop off?

I am not assuming Klefbom’s arthritic shoulder will be magically cured.

 

[gordonhught]

I am not assuming Klefbom’s arthritic shoulder will be magically cured.

He will be just fine

should have drafted Guhle

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

He will be just fine

should have drafted Guhle

I hope so !

 

[McTonyBrar]

Very childish response. Or so someone on here once said.

I didn't know laughing was childish. His assessment of the player was ludicrous. Almost as if he was biased against him

 

[McTonyBrar]

I do dream of a day when the Oilers realize they need to upgrade Nurse.

I know you hate Nurse like crazy for some reason but he is not the problem on this team

 

[McTonyBrar]

He very much has.

I get you like him but at times it’s important to step back and see the flaws as well.

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Maybe you should step back and see the pros instead of focusing on the cons

 

[McTonyBrar]

I do think there's something to it. Why do players always underperform when they come here? None of our offseason signings have looked adequate so far. AA already has three goals with the Kings. Ennis meanwhile is waiver wire fodder, for instance.

Ennis had a bad injury. Before that, he was good. AA didn't fit in and he was bad defensively. He's doing good on a bad team where he doesn't need to play great defence. Turris isn't in a position to succeed. We are forcing him to play a position he hasn't been ever good at. Barrie is just... ugh. KK is going good

 

[McTonyBrar]

I just think our evaluations of Nurse are completely different. I see a d-man that is showing #2 ability on a fairly consistent basis now, and you see a d-man that is a middling 2nd pair guy. He can handle the role and minutes he's being given, he isn't really struggling as a 23-25 minutes per night, all situations player. I don't see how just north of $6m is unreasonable for a player like that. Almost every team would pay their top d-man in that role that much, some just got lucky and signed them for cheap before they broke out.

He sees what he wants to honestly. We can try for so long to make him see the pros and he won't budge.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Why change anything at all?

Those are the forward units not the defence

 

[Captain Controversy]

I imagine klefbom is skating right ? Lol just not using his arm?...
We may need him next year...

 

[McOilers97]

He sees what he wants to honestly. We can try for so long to make him see the pros and he won't budge.

It's a bit like when Petry was here and there was a a group of anti-Petry people that hated him because he was playing the #1 role on the team, even though he was developing well and showed promise, despite some growing pains. And now look at him...

Being the best d-man on the Oilers is a thankless f***ing job. Even if you're a damn good player people will say you suck if you aren't a Doughty/Weber/Keith calibre player. And then guys that play well as a #4 or 5 for a few weeks get praised endlessly and pencilled into the lineup for the next 5+ years.

 

[North]

I don't think the Oilers management reads the boards however.

Nurse has us over a barrel for his next negotiation and his agents know it.

That’s why Holland has to remake the d this off-season.

 

[North]

you are out of your mind. Nurse is playing really well this year. trouble is he is the only one on D.

No he’s not. He’s effing up like everyone else.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

That’s why Holland has to remake the d this off-season.

And the goaltending, and the forwards, and the coaching, and the front office...

 

[North]

I know you hate Nurse like crazy for some reason but he is not the problem on this team

He’s not the solution either.

 

[North]

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Maybe you should step back and see the pros instead of focusing on the cons

The cons outweigh the pros.

 

[Panda Bear]

what if we did something unprecedented and radical like

1. have a system where McDavid and Draisaitl don't always cheat for offence
2. try something crazy like RNH-Drai-Yamamoto
3. and then McDavid, you know, gets to play with Puljujarvi and some random dude who can be F2 like Kahun or who gives a f*** who

our defence isn't pretty by any stretch (pass) of the imagination, but god damn our forward support is unreliable

 

[Sanchez]

Rishaug just asked Gregor, on the radio, why he flip flopped on his stance on the DRY line haha

 

[McTonyBrar]

The cons outweigh the pros.

Not even close man

 

[McTonyBrar]

He’s not the solution either.

Better if he's the solution than some stooge like Barrie on defence. At this point, who else do we have?

 

[McTonyBrar]

It's a bit like when Petry was here and there was a a group of anti-Petry people that hated him because he was playing the #1 role on the team, even though he was developing well and showed promise, despite some growing pains. And now look at him...

Being the best d-man on the Oilers is a thankless f***ing job. Even if you're a damn good player people will say you suck if you aren't a Doughty/Weber/Keith calibre player. And then guys that play well as a #4 or 5 for a few weeks get praised endlessly and pencilled into the lineup for the next 5+ years.

If Doughty, Keith or Weber played for us and made a couple of mistakes guaranteed the same people on here would rip them apart

 

[North]

Better if he's the solution than some stooge like Barrie on defence. At this point, who else do we have?

Nah we got to upgrade Nurse to be successful. He can’t be our best d man if we want to be a good team.