Friedman: Faulk to Anaheim being worked on

[MinJaBen]

Friedman was told last night by a source that this trade is not likely to happen (in the first few minutes of this interview from this morning):

Elliotte Friedman on the Marner negotiations: 'It has been painful and personal' - Sportsnet.ca

Thanks. For those wanting to spend less time than I did listening about other rumors, the Faulk trade talk starts just before the 10:00 minute mark.

To paraphrase the details:

• doesn't think it's going to happen, but not firm on that
• deal seems to be in place and not contingent on a contract between the two teams, but up to Faulk to waive NTC which is contract related
• thinks Faulk must start to see the "writing on the wall" about opportunity in contract year in Carolina
• thinks the team will work to trade him to a destination he wants that may be "not on his list" (which seems to lend some credence to the list as a tool vs. places he "doesn't want to be")

 

[justafan22]

Thanks. For those wanting to spend less time than I did listening about other rumors, the Faulk trade talk starts just before the 10:00 minute mark.

To paraphrase the details:

• doesn't think it's going to happen, but not firm on that
• deal seems to be in place and not contingent on a contract between the two teams, but up to Faulk to waive NTC which is contract related
• thinks Faulk must start to see the "writing on the wall" about opportunity in contract year in Carolina
• thinks the team will work to trade him to a destination he wants that may be "not on his list" (which seems to lend some credence to the list as a tool vs. places he "doesn't want to be")

So it's the Duchene situation in 2017 all over again?

 

[MinJaBen]

So it's the Duchene situation in 2017 all over again?

I didn't follow that too much, so I don't know what aspect you are referring to about that situation and this one.

 

[justafan22]

I didn't follow that too much, so I don't know what aspect you are referring to about that situation and this one.

Duchene asked for a trade the summer before, but didn't get his wish.

He reported to camp and was clearly unhappy but played for a month with the Avs.

Faulk knows he isn't being signed long term, so it could be an issue.

 

[Chrispy]

So it's the Duchene situation in 2017 all over again?

Maybe, but keep in mind if this falls through it appears it will be because Faulk is choosing to stay in Carolina over going to Anaheim.

It's not Carolina refusing Anaheim's offer, or Anaheim feeling like Carolina is asking too much.

If Faulk were that unhappy about staying in Carolina, he could simply accept the trade to Anaheim and play out the season there.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The Avs were the worst team post-lockout the season before the Duchene trade. Carolina just made the Conference Finals. That's a pretty big difference.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Emphasis on that. They fall into the buy-low group for me.

Sure, and to be honest I'm fine with a minimal return but not the biggest Faulk fan right now based on the skills that he brings in his game and the rest of the Canes make up. Guys like Gardiner and Hamilton are substantially better on the offense side. Pesce and Slavin are substantially better on the defensive side. I suppose you could argue he's the most physical d-man but at his price point I think you can replace him with a younger much cheaper player with minimal fall off.

 

[405Exit]

Maybe, but keep in mind if this falls through it appears it will be because Faulk is choosing to stay in Carolina over going to Anaheim.

It's not Carolina refusing Anaheim's offer, or Anaheim feeling like Carolina is asking too much.

If Faulk were that unhappy about staying in Carolina, he could simply accept the trade to Anaheim and play out the season there.

Anaheim seems to always have NTC players. We had Kesler and Bieksa. Also Corey perry. Anaheim needs to stray away from Faulk. As a budget team, we’re stuck with him and not able to make any moves. I’m sure other clubs feel the same way.

 

[Spazkat]

Anaheim seems to always have NTC players. We had Kesler and Bieksa. Also Corey perry. Anaheim needs to stray away from Faulk. As a budget team, we’re stuck with him and not able to make any moves. I’m sure other clubs feel the same way.

With the expansion draft coming up I bet teams are pretty reticent to hand out NTC's except for players they are positive they would want to keep and protect. After watching Vegas make out like bandits, no one wants to end up in a bind again where it costs them to keep guys they dont have protection slots for.

 

[LuckyDucky]

Can anyone really blame Justin for not wanting to live in California. High taxes, people living in the streets and high crime.

I don’t know whether to correct your grammar or school you on where many NHLers in SoCal live (Newport Beach). Either way, both your grammar and your take need some work.

 

[Deuce22]

Can anyone really blame Justin for not wanting to live in California. High taxes, people living in the streets and high crime.

Good summation of life in California. You've obviously been here and your opinion warrants much respect.

 

[tomd]

I don’t know whether to correct your grammar or school you on where many NHLers in SoCal live (Newport Beach). Either way, both your grammar and your take need some work.

Good summation of life in California. You've obviously been here and your opinion warrants much respect.

Yes, he was trying to be snarky but he is correct about taxes (13.3% marginal rate on most of his earnings), very high housing prices, terrible freeway congestion, and lots of people many of whom are not quite "midwestern" in their people skills. For someone who values a rural lifestyle, southern california is not the place to be unless he wants to commute from Big Bear. And this from someone who has spent his entire life here.

 

[Deuce22]

Yes, he was trying to be snarky but he is correct about taxes (13.3% marginal rate on most of his earnings), very high housing prices, terrible freeway congestion, and lots of people many of whom are not quite "midwestern" in their people skills. For someone who values a rural lifestyle, southern california is not the place to be unless he wants to commute from Big Bear. And this from someone who has spent his entire life here.

I've lived here my entire life as well. To cite the negatives of living in a particular state, without mentioning any of the positives, isn't getting my respect. I'm sure every Duck, King, and Shark is praying they get traded somewhere else.

 

[mikeyfan]

On a serious note, I would bet that at least 10 of the 15 teams are on the west coast just because it is further from home.

 

[tomd]

I've lived here my entire life as well. To cite the negatives of living in a particular state, without mentioning any of the positives, isn't getting my respect. I'm sure every Duck, King, and Shark is praying they get traded somewhere else.

Oh I agree but he wasn't trying to be serious. If you are a wealthy athlete in socal you can live a very nice life but it isn't the type of life that Faulk is interested in leading apparently and that is fine with me. He's a midwest boy with midwest values and lifestyle.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

I've lived here my entire life as well. To cite the negatives of living in a particular state, without mentioning any of the positives, isn't getting my respect. I'm sure every Duck, King, and Shark is praying they get traded somewhere else.

Different people like different things. Just because some love living in California and wouldn't rather be anywhere else, doesn't mean others can't hate the thought of living there. It's not a personal insult

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Most of the most dangerous citys in the USA are in the midwest(St Louis), northeast(Baltimore) & south east (New Orleans).
The area around Anaheim within Orange County is safe compared to rest of California. Even LA Lakers legend Magic Johnson lives in the OC instead of LA.
Some of our cities are the safest in terms of urban areas: Lake Forrest, Mission Viejo, Irvine are among the safest cities in america that have 90K+ people.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Most of the most dangerous citys in the USA are in the midwest(St Louis), northeast(Baltimore) & south east (New Orleans).
The area around Anaheim within Orange County is safe compared to rest of California. Even LA Lakers legend Magic Johnson lives in the OC instead of LA.
Some of our cities are the safest in terms of urban areas: Lake Forrest, Mission Viejo, Irvine are among the safest cities in america that have 90K+ people.

He may well have a trophy wife he feels will be tempted in the Oc ( just a hunch feeling )

 

[LuckyDucky]

Yes, he was trying to be snarky but he is correct about taxes (13.3% marginal rate on most of his earnings), very high housing prices, terrible freeway congestion, and lots of people many of whom are not quite "midwestern" in their people skills. For someone who values a rural lifestyle, southern california is not the place to be unless he wants to commute from Big Bear. And this from someone who has spent his entire life here.

The issue is he never mentioned congestion. Instead he listed high crime rates and people living on the streets.

I understand your point. To each his/her own. That said, I don’t find what the poster said to be accurate or amusing.

 

[Leonardo87]

The issue is he never mentioned congestion. Instead he listed high crime rates and people living on the streets.

I understand your point. To each his/her own. That said, I don’t find what the poster said to be accurate or amusing.

Been out to OC a few times, and Anaheim my first time back in March. From what I saw, it’s a great area, especially the beaches like Laguna and Newport.

You guys should not have to defend your city or county. I live right outside of NYC, so I’ve seen it all, from homeless people in the street to high taxes, lol.

 

[Deuce22]

Different people like different things. Just because some love living in California and wouldn't rather be anywhere else, doesn't mean others can't hate the thought of living there. It's not a personal insult

But it's irritating to have to read a post about your home state that is so ignorant. Citing trite narratives, knowing nothing about the area in which most Duck players live, and using conditions (homelessness and high crime) which exist all over the country to represent the whole of California needs to be called out.

 

[Not So Mighty]

Can anyone really blame Justin for not wanting to live in California. High taxes, people living in the streets and high crime.

Yes, much more preferable to be hit by a hurricane.

 

[bleedgreen]

Duchene asked for a trade the summer before, but didn't get his wish.

He reported to camp and was clearly unhappy but played for a month with the Avs.

Faulk knows he isn't being signed long term, so it could be an issue.

Duchene played very well when the games happened. Actually was at the top of his game and which showed more leadership than he had before up to that point. He went out with his head held high in a crap situation imo.

It was really just the first day of camp when he got a lot of negative press for having a grumpy look on his face for his picture. A lot gets made of it because his teammates went public talking how glad they were the distraction was over.

 

[DavidBL]

I think the biggest concern for Faulk as fsr as his career is concerned is the opportunities he'll get this year in Carolina. They could have a major affect on his stats which may really hurt him in UFA. Hes negotiating from a position of strength right now. He had a good year and can control his destiny for the most part. Which is also probably why he is hesitant to go to the Ducks without an extension as none of the major analysts have the Ducks doing very well which can also hurt him in UFA if he got there or even just resigning with the Ducks at a later date.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I think that since the news broke of the pieces involved other teams called and maybe some of the other options were worth exploring.