Fantasy Mock Voting (Standings Posted #178)

[Joey Moss]

Playoff voting is going to be done through the polls section without team names. It's easier for me not to have to keep track of the voting myself, larger sample size, and we can still debate our teams here. I'm going to post the thread this evening, just need to get a few things done before.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Joeys just eliminating the teams he is afraid of.

 

[LT]

But then in the Super team draft, I play @AveryStar4Eva in the 1st round. Both of our teams are probably in the top-5 for all teams in the game, so one of us will be out early.

No playoff format will be perfect, people will be screwed over. That's even the case in the NHL.
I'm just really happy with how well this game's turned out. Insane activity levels from virtually all the GMs.

I'd much, much rather lose a competitive match-up in the first round than not even make the playoffs.

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I'm not going to pretend I'm fine with the results. It's incredibly frustrating to know that I was in before one last minute vote.

I also have no idea who voted my team dead last in the division, but that also now seemingly cost me a playoff spot. And now I don't even really get to play the game.

I'm also not going to pretend that I built the best team in the game, but I do feel quite confident in saying my team should not have been in the bottom 2 on 3 votes.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

I am so screwed for round 1

 

[Panda Bear]

I'd much, much rather lose a competitive match-up in the first round than not even make the playoffs.

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I'm not going to pretend I'm fine with the results. It's incredibly frustrating to know that I was in before one last minute vote.

I also have no idea who voted my team dead last in the division, but that also now seemingly cost me a playoff spot. And now I don't even really get to play the game.

I'm also not going to pretend that I built the best team in the game, but I do feel quite confident in saying my team should not have been in the bottom 2 on 3 votes.

Yeah, it sucks. I had you sixth in division, but had you as the 17th best team overall before accounting for anything like line fits. Your forwards would have better synergy than, say, Florida.

 

[hockeynorth]

OFFICIAL STANDINGS
x = clinch playoffs

Pacific Division
1. Vegas Golden Knights (180) x
2. Edmonton Oilers (161) x
3. Los Angeles Kings (100) x
4. Vancouver Canucks (85)
5. Anaheim Ducks (80)
6. San Jose Sharks (72)
7. Calgary Flames (57)
8. Arizona Coyotes (53)

Central Division
1. Colorado Avalanche (151) x
2. St. Louis Blues (146) x
3. Nashville Predators (125) x
4. Dallas Stars (117) x
5. Winnipeg Jets (99) x
6. Minnesota Wild (96)
7. Chicago Blackhawks (53)

METROPOLITAN DIVISION
1. Philadelphia Flyers (137) x
2. Columbus Blue Jackets (136) x
3. Carolina Hurricanes (114) x
4. Washington Capitals (113) x
5. Pittsburgh Penguins (103)
6. NY Islanders (97)
7. New Jersey Devils (53)
8. NY Rangers (37)

ATLANTIC DIVISION
1. Toronto Maple Leafs (134) x
2. Boston Bruins (131) x
3. Florida Panthers (117) x
4. Montreal Canadiens (115) x
5. Tampa Bay Lightning (111)
6. Buffalo Sabres (87)
7. Ottawa Senators (56)
8. Detroit Red Wings (36)

PLAYOFF MATCHUPS

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LETS GOOOOO THE PREDS ARE IN BABY, you can't deny this elite offence!

 

[Panda Bear]

For the record, anyone who dismissed PandaScores out of hand automatically reveals themselves as someone who hates any and all advanced stats.

 

[hockeynorth]

The following users should be particularly aggrieved for losing the reputation battle but winning the actual production war:
@FanofBadHockeyTeam
@hockeynorth
@Took a pill in Sbisa
@BeLeafing
@McMozesmadness
@donut
@bertty

Nashville will upset.

 

[hockeynorth]

Actually I'll gladly take 5 1st place votes for Nashville, that's fun

 

[hockeynorth]

OFFICIAL STANDINGS
x = clinch playoffs

Pacific Division
1. Vegas Golden Knights (180) x
2. Edmonton Oilers (161) x
3. Los Angeles Kings (100) x
4. Vancouver Canucks (85)
5. Anaheim Ducks (80)
6. San Jose Sharks (72)
7. Calgary Flames (57)
8. Arizona Coyotes (53)

Central Division
1. Colorado Avalanche (151) x
2. St. Louis Blues (146) x
3. Nashville Predators (125) x
4. Dallas Stars (117) x
5. Winnipeg Jets (99) x
6. Minnesota Wild (96)
7. Chicago Blackhawks (53)

METROPOLITAN DIVISION
1. Philadelphia Flyers (137) x
2. Columbus Blue Jackets (136) x
3. Carolina Hurricanes (114) x
4. Washington Capitals (113) x
5. Pittsburgh Penguins (103)
6. NY Islanders (97)
7. New Jersey Devils (53)
8. NY Rangers (37)

ATLANTIC DIVISION
1. Toronto Maple Leafs (134) x
2. Boston Bruins (131) x
3. Florida Panthers (117) x
4. Montreal Canadiens (115) x
5. Tampa Bay Lightning (111)
6. Buffalo Sabres (87)
7. Ottawa Senators (56)
8. Detroit Red Wings (36)

PLAYOFF MATCHUPS

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Nice to see all my top teams in and only San Jose and Pittsburgh miss that I had in I believe! Annoyed I have St Louis of all teams round 1, I really didn't have Colorado as high. Carolina/Columbus will be a nasty match up.

 

[belair]

I'd much, much rather lose a competitive match-up in the first round than not even make the playoffs.

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I'm not going to pretend I'm fine with the results. It's incredibly frustrating to know that I was in before one last minute vote.

I also have no idea who voted my team dead last in the division, but that also now seemingly cost me a playoff spot. And now I don't even really get to play the game.

I'm also not going to pretend that I built the best team in the game, but I do feel quite confident in saying my team should not have been in the bottom 2 on 3 votes.

After the first one of these I don't put a whole lot of value into the voting process. Judging by the average results, a good chunk just look at the top one or two lines, top pairing, goalie and vote. No emphasis on player types, potential chemistry or even proper player position. Depth for the most part is meaningless if your team lacks elite-level talent at the top. I'd even argue it's not even worthwhile drafting a bottom six.

That being said Philly wins this in a runaway. I couldn't even vote my own team over that roster, bias considered.

 

[Ainec]

My Draft Board

McDavid

MacKinnon

Crosby (overrated rep)

Matthews

Malkin

Kucherov

Draisaitl

Bergeron (overrated rep)

Eichel

Barkov

Pettersson

Panarin

Stamkos

Tavares

Hedman

Marchand

Ovechkin (overrated rep)

Pastrnak (underrated rep)

Josi

ROR

Scheifele (overrated rep)

Couturier

Aho (polarized rep)

Makar

Barzal

Seguin (overrated rep)

Kane

Stone

Zibanejad (polarized rep)

Point

Kopitar (overrated rep)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

vs actual draft board

1	Colorado (BOS)	Connor McDavid	Y
2	Calgary	Auston Matthews
3	Florida	Nathan MacKinnon	Y
4	Los Angeles (ARZ)	Leon Draisaitl
5	Edmonton	Sidney Crosby	Y
6	Ottawa	Artemi Panarin
7	Boston (COL)	Aleksander Barkov
8	Detroit	David Pastrnak	N
9	Buffalo	Patrice Bergeron
10	Tampa Bay	Nikita Kucherov
11	Montreal	Elias Pettersson
12	Columbus	Evgeni Malkin	Y
13	Dallas	Roman Josi
14	Pittsburgh	Jack Eichel
15	San Jose	Alex Ovechkin
16	NY Rangers	Patrick Kane
17	New Jersey	Mikko Rantanen
18	Washington	Victor Hedman
19	Vegas	Sebastian Aho
20	Carolina	Mika Zibanejad	N
21	Arizona (LA)	Johnny Gaudreau	N
22	Nashville	Steven Stamkos	Y
23	Chicago	Cale Makar
24	Edmonton (ANA)	Seth Jones	Y
25	Philadelphia	Alex Pietrangelo	Y
26	St. Louis	Brad Marchand	Y
27	Minnesota	Mark Scheifele
28	Vancouver	Mathew Barzal
29	Toronto	John Tavares	Y
30	Winnipeg	Jordan Binnington	Y
31	NY Islanders	Anze Kopitar

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Bolded 7/7 steals (BPA) made playoffs
*Kucherov would have counted if Malkin wasn't on the board
3/6 reaches made playoffs

 

[hockeynorth]

So my thoughts on my match up... I hate it, I had Nashville as 1 and St Louis as 2 in that division. But here goes:
St Louis has an amazing team I really love it but if you compare both teams, Nashvilles depth could really out match there's especially up front. They have a great first line with Marchand/Couts/Palmieri but Stamkos/Tarasenko were respectively playing some of the best hockey in the NHL this year, and both our 3rd wheels are great fits with the line. This is two first lines who'd really go toe to toe in a nasty battle, but once you look at second lines, Tkachuk/Backlund were unreal at evens this season and produce like crazy, they did much better than Hischier/Meier would and we know the pair works for sure, Nashville has a great second line. His third wheel is Kempe and mine is Kovalchuk, two very different players but we know Kovy shows up. I feel like the third line is where you really see the gap with Coyle being an elite 3C while Necas is probably better off on the wing, through in Crouse playing heavier hockey and Vilardi being an elite offensive weapon, I think that line I have an edge for sure. His 4th line is solid, but mine has ZAR who was one of the best defensive players in the NHL, Stephens who had awesome possession numbers this season and Reaves being a real nasty presence and I think my depth is just much better than Nygard/Ryan/Archibald which is a pretty mediocre at best 4th line. Clearly St Louis has the edge on 1st pairs but Nashvilles second pair as a shut down pair is really getting slept on, don't forget Edmundson logged huge minutes as a steady presence beside Pietrangelo on the cup run and Slavin at times this year. Demers too logs 20ish minutes a night. Butcher and Vatanen were both questionable this year. Bortuzzo and TVR are basically equivalent though Bortuzzo has the cup experience, and Reilly had great analytics this year on a horrible team, thats not nothing, you can check them out yourself. Ultimately in the crease its a tale of which goalie really shows up, and Gibsons one of the best in the league just stuck on Anaheim while Rinne is faltering. I prefer his high end group, but Nashvilles depth should run through St Louis' and depth wins cups. I loved St Louis team too and had them and Nashville flip flopping for top in the division until the last few rounds when I felt Nashville pulled ahead.

 

[m0pe]

Once the polls are up, vote over

Because...we are Swedish? And have better goaltending. And we have the stronger defense and defensive forwards.

Tbh, Philly was one of my top-3 teams. They built a great team so I have a hard time arguing against them and won't be shocked if we go out in Round 1.

Just thrilled we made the playoffs considering how big of a restriction we put on our drafting. So let's keep that underdog story going!

 

[Panda Bear]

Philadelphia mops the floor with Washington 19/20 times.

 

[Horse McHindu]

Biggest surprises:

Surprised Wild, Islanders and Lightning missed

Surprised LA, Florida and Winnipeg made it.

God bless your soul. :-p

 

[BeLeafing]

Apparently are going in as the underdogs but it's not an unusual spot for the organization!

In the end all of us know that defense wins championships and takes over in the playoffs, and we are fully confident that our defense is not only the best in this match up but one of the best in the league!

This is also the time of the year that physical players like B. Tkachuk, Benn, and on a smaller scale Lucic wreck havoc, and we believe we have the more physical playoff ready roster. And that still doesn't take away from the boat loads of skill on the roster.

Vote over !!

And best of luck to mr. @Makaveli

 

[m0pe]

Philadelphia mops the floor with Washington 19/20 times.

Washington mops the floor with Ottawa 19/20 times apparently

And we are banking on that 1 time for Washington coming true

 

[Horse McHindu]

This mope/ Panda beef is fun to watch, haha.

Would have made for a great playoff battle.

It’s just too bad that one of those teams didn’t make it in. :-p

In all seriousness, I will have to give @m0pe some massive credit. Like me, he played with self imposed limitations, but he built one hell of a team!

Ps - the following teams were my divisional winners:

Flyers (might have been Pens but I can’t remember), Panthers, Blues, and Vegas.

 

[m0pe]

I'd much, much rather lose a competitive match-up in the first round than not even make the playoffs.

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I'm not going to pretend I'm fine with the results. It's incredibly frustrating to know that I was in before one last minute vote.

I also have no idea who voted my team dead last in the division, but that also now seemingly cost me a playoff spot. And now I don't even really get to play the game.

I'm also not going to pretend that I built the best team in the game, but I do feel quite confident in saying my team should not have been in the bottom 2 on 3 votes.

Yeah this is the one team I really don't get missing...felt like Toronto Boston and Tampa were a clear top-3 in the Atlantic.

well done anyways despite the result.

 

[Makaveli]

GO GO

Although Carolina is technically the "underdog", we know better than to underestimate our opponent. Our team is lead by players that have been here before, the nerves won't get to them. We have not one but TWO Conn Smythe winners in Malkin and Toews. They know how to get it done and they will. They are surrounded with a great cast; two way play and skill is the game. Top to bottom we have a tenacious hard working group, and guess what? Hard work pays off. In net we have an elite playoff performer and Stanley Cup Champion Braden Holtby. He knows when to turn it on, Holtbeast is about to be unleashed! Dahlin - Pesce will lead the D core and is a formidable first pairing. Alec Martinez has scored a CUP CLINCHING GOAL. You can't teach that. Not to mention Djoos was an important role player for the Caps during their championship. This will be an intense series, may the best team win!

VOTE over

Good-luck to our opponent, @BeLeafing .

 

[Panda Bear]

I have confidence that my team is actually good now rather than good a few years ago.

Ottawa would also win 19/20 over Washington. Results > reputation.

 

[hockeynorth]

Where do we vote?

 

[Horse McHindu]

I have confidence that my team is actually good now rather than good a few years ago.

Ottawa would also win 19/20 over Washington. Results > reputation.

Hey Panda,

Do you have NHL 20 by any chance? If so - would you mind creating a simulation based on the rosters that we created in this draft? I’m curious to see how our teams did over there and whether the rankings on there were similar to that on here.

 

[m0pe]

I have confidence that my team is actually good now rather than good a few years ago.

Ottawa would also win 19/20 over Washington. Results > reputation.

Well maybe in your hypothetical version of this league but they didn't here.

Just take the L and move on dude.

Always next draft.