Fantasy GM Thread | Drop the Puck Edition

[wonton15]

We’re #1!

Chris Gear wouldn’t have done this! Castonguay instant impact

 

[credulous]

IN ltir correct.. using it

they're using over 3 mil of it right now

 

[andora]

We’re #1!

This doesnt quite make sense how the numbers add up.. PDG didnt have any games last year

they're using over 3 mil of it right now

They have a player on ltir.. but they are not using the cushion

I understand it as 2 usings

1. Use the ltir option to put a player on it
2. Use the salary cushion it gives you by adding a player and his money to into the cushion

 

[credulous]

This doesnt quite make sense how the numbers add up.. PDG didnt have any games last year


They have a player on ltir.. but they are not using the cushion

I understand it as 2 usings

1. Use the ltir option to put a player on it
2. Use the salary cushion it gives you by adding a player and his money to into the cushion

they are using the full 3.5 mil cushion. their roster is exactly 86 million if you don't put ferland on ltir. moving di giuseppe to ltir also (after the fact) frees up another 146k and swapping klim for karlsson frees up a little bit more money

 

[andora]

they are using the full 3.5 mil cushion. their roster is exactly 86 million if you don't put ferland on ltir. moving di giuseppe to ltir also (after the fact) frees up another 146k and swapping klim for karlsson frees up a little bit more money

Oh ok i see my error now got it..

I am also curious as to why that tweet reported it includes the 2 million bonuses..

 

[biturbo19]

It's surprising. Philly fans were really happy with him last year and how he improved over the season.

New coach has new favourites, though, I guess. And almost all 4th liners are a shift in the wind from being out of a job.

Yeah. MacEwan not making the Flyers roster out of camp is definitely surprising. He very much seems like a "Torts Player". But Tortorella is completely spastic in which players work for him, and which do not. Like when he unfortunately showed up here, i think everyone would've assumed Hansen was going to be one of "his guys", but it was the complete opposite and basically a disaster. So who really knows what that lunatic is thinking or doing. Usually the wrong thing, but beyond that...who knows.

MacEwan is definitely one of those guys who doesn't do anything particularly well enough to solidify an NHL roster spot though. He's very much at the mercy of which way the winds are blowing on any given day. He's a plenty capable 4th line banger, but he doesn't really have any particular standout ability to hang his hat on. He's not a super speedy relentless forechecker. He's not an ace PKer. He's not a faceoff specialist or defensive matchup chess piece. He's a willing pugilist, but not really a true "enforcer". The offensive touch at lower levels hasn't really translated. He's just one of those guys who sorta...plays minutes. Those types of players are the very most "fringe" you can be. Very thoroughly at the mercy of a particular coach's whims and fancies. That's one of the few places teams can really afford to "tinker" at the edges of the roster. So there ends up being a pretty high level of pressure on those sorts of players to "stand out" somehow. Especially on bad teams that have a lot of other holes and are desperate to do something to flip the script. Obviously MacEwan didn't do so.

 

[Vector]

CapFriendly backing up PuckPedia’s math.

 

[M2Beezy]

Somewhere Benning is watching this saying "You can do that???"

 

[canuckking1]

Hope Boeser is good to go for Wednesday. He loves playing the oilers.

 

[MS]

Yeah. MacEwan not making the Flyers roster out of camp is definitely surprising. He very much seems like a "Torts Player". But Tortorella is completely spastic in which players work for him, and which do not. Like when he unfortunately showed up here, i think everyone would've assumed Hansen was going to be one of "his guys", but it was the complete opposite and basically a disaster. So who really knows what that lunatic is thinking or doing. Usually the wrong thing, but beyond that...who knows.

MacEwan is definitely one of those guys who doesn't do anything particularly well enough to solidify an NHL roster spot though. He's very much at the mercy of which way the winds are blowing on any given day. He's a plenty capable 4th line banger, but he doesn't really have any particular standout ability to hang his hat on. He's not a super speedy relentless forechecker. He's not an ace PKer. He's not a faceoff specialist or defensive matchup chess piece. He's a willing pugilist, but not really a true "enforcer". The offensive touch at lower levels hasn't really translated. He's just one of those guys who sorta...plays minutes. Those types of players are the very most "fringe" you can be. Very thoroughly at the mercy of a particular coach's whims and fancies. That's one of the few places teams can really afford to "tinker" at the edges of the roster. So there ends up being a pretty high level of pressure on those sorts of players to "stand out" somehow. Especially on bad teams that have a lot of other holes and are desperate to do something to flip the script. Obviously MacEwan didn't do so.

For sure.

And it's just so random who manages to get/keep jobs as NHL depth players. Jimmy Vesey - one of the most useless Canucks I've ever seen - just managed to stick on an NHL roster yet again despite being absolute garbage for 4 different teams over the last 4 years, while far more effective players like Lammikko and Highmore are now out of NHL jobs.

 

[biturbo19]

For sure.

And it's just so random who manages to get/keep jobs as NHL depth players. Jimmy Vesey - one of the most useless Canucks I've ever seen - just managed to stick on an NHL roster yet again despite being absolute garbage for 4 different teams over the last 4 years, while far more effective players like Lammikko and Highmore are now out of NHL jobs.

It really is a strange part of the player market. All sorts of weird distortions in play.

I will say though, Vesey at least has a pretty clear outline of exactly what it is that he can offer as a player. He's posted some offensive results previously. Not great results, but when you post 30+ points in a season, i think that does tend to stand out on a "fringe depth player" resume. There's a threshold there.

There's also some weird stuff going on with the Rangers roster composition that sort of favors a guy like Vesey who can theoretically play in a more offensive-oriented role. They've got a bunch of sort of "responsible bottom-6" forward types around their lineup. They're kind of hedging against Kravtsov not panning out as an "offensive scoring role" type player i think. They've already got a perfect sort of "no event defensive forward" spare with Carpenter, plus the other roster guys including big money Goodrow who can fill those sort of minutes. Their RW depth is kind of a mess of "maybes" though, when it comes to their scoring lines.


It is weird how some guys like Vesey just seem to consistently fall ass first into the right situations to keep playing in the NHL though. The power of a Harvard education i guess. idk.

 

[JAK]

Lammikko and Highmore are now out of NHL jobs.

Ottawa should sign both of them and reunite with Motte.

 

[m9]

Pretty funny with how it all worked out with the LTIR numbers, nice job by the cap team.

 

[krutovsdonut]

glad klimovich gets some nhl salary.

 

[andora]

Now that they fully have the cushion when healthy i would hope they be bold and waive poolman and even stillman if need be.. and run a bunch under to accrue. Gives you runway for the bonuses and or an option to add

Even if they dont waive everyone.. do the paper guys on off days that you can (rathbone and even hoglander his bonuses small enough to cover in recalls)

 

[JAK]

Now that they fully have the cushion when healthy i would hope they be bold and waive poolman and even stillman if need be.. and run a bunch under to accrue. Gives you runway for the bonuses and or an option to add

Even if they dont waive everyone.. do the paper guys on off days that you can (rathbone and even hoglander his bonuses small enough to cover in recalls)

View attachment 592353View attachment 592354

Rathbone can be papered down on off days, minor salary is the same. But I doubt Hoglander's agent would appreciate a 90% pay cut on off days.

 

[Ruthervin]

Not sure what youre getting at but we were a bad team for a long time.

Aman is found money it seems but Karlsson wouldnt be on the roster if not for injury

Were we a bad team largely due to terrible UFA signings or were we a bad team due to an inability to convert picks and prospects into regular NHL players? I would argue it was the former as opposed to the latter.

 

[MarkMM]

Were we a bad team largely due to terrible UFA signings or were we a bad team due to an inability to convert picks and prospects into regular NHL players? I would argue it was the former as opposed to the latter.

Definitely more of the former than the latter, though whiffing on both Virtanen and Juolevi was devastating.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Were we a bad team largely due to terrible UFA signings or were we a bad team due to an inability to convert picks and prospects into regular NHL players? I would argue it was the former as opposed to the latter.

I would add trading away multiple 2nd’s/3rd’s for middling pieces. If even just one of those picks had hit and became a 2nd pairing defenseman or 3rd line center we would be in a much better position now.

 

[iceburg]

I keep looking at Capfriendly. It's a thing of beauty. Sooo many zeros.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Zack Macewan is one of those fringe forwards that's just less than the sum of his parts. He's scored significantly below a 4th line rate over his career despite having great size and speed and occasionally making decent plays. When you watch him carefully it becomes clear he's terrible at cycling and can't track his linemates unless they are in front of him and his head is up.

 

[MarkMM]

Zack Macewan is one of those fringe forwards that's just less than the sum of his parts. He's scored significantly below a 4th line rate over his career despite having great size and speed and occasionally making decent plays. When you watch him carefully it becomes clear he's terrible at cycling and can't track his linemates unless they are in front of him and his head is up.

I wonder if it's a pure hockey IQ thing that can't be fixed, or with his drive and willingness to improve good coaching could fix him.

Something like that will be needed to be a strength of the Canucks if we're to find a way to fix our holes within the window of our core's contract windows.

 

[Peen]

I wonder if it's a pure hockey IQ thing that can't be fixed, or with his drive and willingness to improve good coaching could fix him.

Something like that will be needed to be a strength of the Canucks if we're to find a way to fix our holes within the window of our core's contract windows.

It is far and away the first one.

Dude plays hard. This isn’t a desire issue.

 

[MarkMM]

It is far and away the first one.

Dude plays hard. This isn’t a desire issue.

Do you think if a team invested the resources to personally teach him he could turn it around? I've always wondered about how much untapped potential could have been harnessed if a team found a guy with pure will and gave him the guidance and resources needed to develop.

 

[credulous]

montreal are currently trying the 'acquire elite athletes' + 'teach them hockey' thing so we'll know pretty soon whether that works