This is strange considering the Kings are already paying Fiala almost 8 million a year and only one year of Faber's next contract would overlap with Kopitar's extension. There is plenty for Faber and Doughty.
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The trade was in 2022. It was after Faber played two years at Minn and the Olympics where he was the top US defender. It was clear he was at least able to replace Roy on the second pair immediately.
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No one is trying to minimize him, we all knew he could play. What we are saying is there was no spot YET. Our line up was Doughty-Roy-Spence to start the season . Our pecking order was Spence-Clarke... where would Faber fit in all this? The only way he starts is if he beats out Spence for the job. Spence had a really great camp. Who knows if he would've. Our cap space to start the year was non existent, where do you add another million? Remember having to start with 17 skaters...why?
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Any savings in cap space would've gone towards a real starting goalie [ say 5 mil plus], and guess what, another scoring left winger with the left over change. You just know Blake would've messed that up too. What if he used the extra cap and traded him for Hellenbeck, would you still be upset?
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You mean like how easy it would've been to move AI and his 4 mil contract?
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I love Drew, Still have his autographed jersey shadow boxed in my rec room. Got to party with him at one of Stoll's charity golf tournaments in Saskatoon years back, and do think he is one of the best defenseman the Kings have ever had, possibly the best. I just wish he would have taken a bit of a team friendly contract, shut his mouth about bringing people in, and not played like a pouting child for two years when things were not going his way. To me he has just as big of part in where this team is, as does the management.
I don't think the team would trade him unless we go into the toilet in his last year. He still has elite defensive instincts, I just wish we could get him down to the 23 minute a night mark and maybe move him to PP2.
People have been talking about making room for the young D since the 21-22 season by trading the older guys like Doughty, Roy, Walker, and even Durzi. Why did Blake wait a year+ to make any trades when Spence and Clarke were signed and clearly ready in the summer of 2022 and Faber would be ready when signing in the spring? Either they play well or the Kings end up with Bedard or another young stud. This would negate any thoughts of trading for PLD.
The savings of trading the older D plus not adding Fiala opens up a ton of cap space and would have provided an opening for one of the forward prospects we are still dicking around in the bottom six. The Kings wouldn't be in a cap crunch if they had made these decisions when we were talking about in the spring/summer of 2022.
The Kings had limited roster room because they trade three guys for a single player with the same cap hit. Blake chose poorly again. It is just a string of easily avoidable mistakes by management.
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Another MASSIVE night for #1D Brock Faber, assist, +, 28mins like a regular Drew Doughty
should win the Calder purely on consistency alone
how many MASSIVE nights has our top six winger Fiala had?
should win the Calder purely on consistency alone
how many MASSIVE nights has our top six winger Fiala had?
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Agree with all your points. The part in bold is the main thing to me. I do think the Kopi/DD leadership is somewhat lacking and part of the reason for the tailspin. Kopi is the gentleman hockey player.. DD is sort of a brat. We need more of warrior like a Messier at least as an assistant captain. To me guys like JQ, Greene, Richards, JW, Stoll all had this quality.
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It's almost like every player traded away is supposed to suck balls for the fanbase to feel validated. Weird...
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There was “no spot yet” for a player playing at a star level on a 925k contract on a team clinging to a wild card spot? So in other words you are saying the Kings, a PROFESSIONAL hockey team are not a meritocracy?
How do you make room for a star defenseman who is maybe the best value on the league with his contract? I don’t know, there are these things called trades, where you can trade out a lesser dman making $3+m to make room a better one making less than $1m. Do you realize what you are saying, you are arguing that possibly the best contract in the NHL this season wouldn’t work here for cap reasons? Any team up against the cap would bend over backwards to have an impact player like Faber on a contract like that.
It’s a good thing LA didn’t win the lottery last year, would have had to send Bedard back to junior because there was no room on the roster and with the cap.
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They tried to sign Faber and play him in the NHL immediately while the team was on its way to the playoffs in 2022. If he was not traded, he would have been at the top of that Spence-Clarke pecking order.
With the way he is a total natural, he probably forces movement with the RHD by Blake to start the 2023 season or shortly thereafter.
They liked him more than Spence, no doubt. This organization still can't draft--develop actually--scorers so Blake moved a guy he really liked in Faber to acquire scoring since they still had a lot of RHD, including Spence and Clarke.
Unfortunately, Blake and company didn't know what they had which is a recurring theme when it comes to player evaluation once they are in the system.
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I would unironically say that the Kings are not a meritocracy. We don't have to look any further than Brandt Clarke to see that. He's done nothing but dominate every league he's played in, yet in four months in the NHL (October to December 2022, January to February 2024) he's played a grand total of 15 NHL games. I can't imagine a worse way to utilize your elite young defenseman. I have to imagine Faber's over the moon about not coming up through our system.
Time travel doesn’t affect sports though. Gray’s Almanac was dead on for Biff.
Its obvious to the most casual observer that the kings were a popularity contest under macclellan and nothing even close to a meritocracy. Hopefully, thatll change but i doubt it
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my only take away is that you used affect instead of effect and I'm curious if you know which one was which without looking it up cus I still have to look it up
the idea of Faber not playing over Englund simply because he's right handed is hilarious and also exactly what would have happened because this organization is stupid
they knew what they had in Faber when they offered him a roster spot in Minnesota. if they weren't ever going to trade Doughty, they should have at least traded Roy that summer instead. he could have easily fetched a scoring winger or good futures.
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I dunno. Fiala has had a lot of MASSIVE f***ups so far this season.
Blake’s entire time with the LA Kings? I agree.
Affect is a verb, effect is a noun. You can be affected, you can feel an effect.
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