GDT: Expansion Draft - Part III [Protected lists Released]

[ffh]

Do the rankings you posted refute my point? They have most of the 2nd tier being taken ahead of #15, and all it takes is for guys like Rasmussen and Tippet to drop for us to miss out on all of the 2nd tier

The trade value of dropping from 13 to 15th is not the same as a 6th or a 7th. Indeed looking at historical trade ups, a team looking to jump from 15th to 13th is expected to give up value somewhere between a 60-70th overall pick https://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/4/25/4262594/nhl-draft-pick-value-trading-up so an early 3rd.

At what point in time should the jets do what's best for the team next year rather than what might be marginally better for them 5 years from now.

 

[almostawake]

I feel like this is being worn out by the Jets hfboards community today.

 

[JetsFan815]

It gets worse:

 

[Weezeric]

^ There will always been an excuse for Chevy with some. I'd hate to see what it will take for them to turn on him.

For others, Chevy trades a 2nd for mcdavid and win 5 cups in a row and they will say a competent GM would've done it sooner.

 

[mcpw]

Why are you are using a cumulative stat to make a point about a player who played significantly less games and minutes than the players he is being compared to? If anything, this graph shows how good Dano was to have nearly the same or better GAR as Armia and Copp who played 20-25 games more than him.

Quoted for truth. He played half of the minutes Armia and Copp played, yet accumulated the same "GAR".

 

[JJ McCubbin]

I feel like this is being worn out by the Jets hfboards community today.

I'm fine with people freaking out a little but rooting for Minnesota is unacceptable, in my opinion.

 

[surixon]

At what point in time should the jets do what's best for the team next year rather than what might be marginally better for them 5 years from now.

No kidding. Chevy can do nothing right for some on here. By the sounds of it he's coming out of the expansion draft pretty darn unscathed. If all it took was to move down 2 picks then I'll take it. He will still have the full collection of his picks available to I don't know trade for a goalie or something. We have a team ready to start contending so I'm glad he maintained all of our key players.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

It gets worse:

How is that worse than morrissey chiarot and stuart on the left side?

Oh no. We drop a couple spots. Big deal really.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Rheinhart? But he was a pilon that would never be selected...

That said i've been wrong about mostly everything else.

Good call on Reinhart. I guess GMGM is dazzled by his draft pedigree and "potential", though as with all the picks, it'll be interesting to know what side deals were involved.

 

[Mud Turtle]

It gets worse:

Ok, NOW you're scaring me! Should have just given them Armia or Lowry if this ends up happening. I really don't like the possible cliff that's right around pick 14 or 15.

 

[blues10]

It gets worse:

I hope this is not a painful night to be a Jets fan. Stuart is exposed and LV already reportedly took Engelland and Reinhart so maybe they will also take Stuart.

Big picture thinking for Chevy.

 

[JetsFan815]

How is that worse than morrissey chiarot and stuart on the left side?

Oh no. We drop a couple spots. Big deal really.

We drop slots in the draft, give up a pick and lose Dano, it's the tripple whamy. The Jets could have just gone with 4-4-1 and only lost one asset instead of 3

 

[JJ McCubbin]

Has there been any rumours as to whether the Oilers have had to bribe Vegas to take him? Seems an odd pickup if not, although admittedly I don't remember the Oilers having a great selection on offer.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Quoted for truth. He played half of the minutes Armia and Copp played, yet accumulated the same "GAR".

Who cares. He was a healthy scratch and showed up to camp out of shape. You can use all this useless crap you want but bottom line... A whole bunch of you over rate players without even knowing if they give a crap enough to get better. 3 teams have now moved on from Dano. That says way more than GAR or whatsver other useless stat says.

 

[ffh]

We drop slots in the draft, give up a pick and lose Dano, it's the tripple whamy. The Jets could have just gone with 4-4-1 and only lost one asset instead of 3

if only chevy would have thought of that.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

You can thank Arthur Fonzarelli for starting that one.

Nope. In post #804 I responded to Aavco's post #788 which was a continuation of the immediate post prior. #787 said:

Jets will probably give up Dano and a 2nd. VGK probably values the 2nd more than Dano.

And said "it better not be any more than that" in my response.

 

[BB88]

How is that worse than morrissey chiarot and stuart on the left side?

Oh no. We drop a couple spots. Big deal really.

I think it could end up like that in few years.

I've been thinking Valimaki as a great Enstrom replacer in time, and Jets to build the D-group around Trouba/Morrissey/Valimaki.

So Grubauer wasn't taken either.

 

[rehf]

Okay, moving down 13-15 I am alright with, but not if it means giving an additional draft pick on top of it.

Tonight is going to be interesting and potentially amusing for good and bad reasons.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Is it at 7pm our time tonight?

 

[Aavco Cup]

 

[Gabe Kupari]

We drop slots in the draft, give up a pick and lose Dano, it's the tripple whamy. The Jets could have just gone with 4-4-1 and only lost one asset instead of 3

Despite what u ppl say... Dano sucks. Deal with it. Oh no not a couple slots... God forbid.

 

[AWSAA]

For others, Chevy trades a 2nd for mcdavid and win 5 cups in a row and they will say a competent GM would've done it sooner.

Cups? How about a playoff win first?

 

[JetsFan815]

Has there been any rumours as to whether the Oilers have had to bribe Vegas to take him? Seems an odd pickup if not, although admittedly I don't remember the Oilers having a great selection on offer.

If you look at what the Oilers have exposed there is pretty much nothing there. I drafted Reinhart in the mock I did as well, atleast there's a good chance that he can make it through the waivers and contribute on the AHL team

 

[surixon]

Okay, moving down 13-15 I am alright with, but not if it means giving an additional draft pick on top of it.

Tonight is going to be interesting and potentially amusing for good/bad reasons.

What if its one of our 6 round picks ;p

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

Maybe the trade down includes a goalie!

Can someone define "a couple" for me?

Isn't it speculated they have that Vegas is getting the Isles pick?

Perhaps it's simply 2 spots .