Expansion Draft II

[FLYguy3911]

Vegas can't get carried away taking goalies with the end goal of flipping them. Not many teams need a goalie and if they take more than 2 who are not waiver exempt, they lose some leverage. They could carry 3 goalies on the active roster but I can't imagine that 3rd goalie is going to be too pleased.

 

[BillDineen]

McPhee added that he was pleasantly surprised by the lack of moves made by other teams in recent days, which has positioned his staff to acquire the players they covet even better than expected.

"That was the bigger surprise yesterday, because we were expecting this mass redistribution of players that really didn't happen, which we were really happy about," McPhee said.

 

[The Madrigal]

He learned to say that 'Sports Agent 101' Class.


... It's a done deal... trust me.

Agreed. Anyone who doesn't think they already have a deal in place isn't using common sense.

 

[bennysflyers16]

For Vegas to not take Manson or Vaatanen, Theodore plus '18 1st, plus more ?

 

[The Madrigal]

Vegas can't get carried away taking goalies with the end goal of flipping them. Not many teams need a goalie and if they take more than 2 who are not waiver exempt, they lose some leverage. They could carry 3 goalies on the active roster but I can't imagine that 3rd goalie is going to be too pleased.

True, but it could be a situation where Hextall tells GMGM that he would give up X amount for someone like Mrazek if they take him and the two sides prearrange a deal.

 

[Rebels57]

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The Isles giving up the 15th pick just so one of Bailey or Cizikas doesn't get poached is just mind blowing. How is this even slightly defensible?

Thank goodness for Hextall.

Is it definitely their 1st? Horrific if so lol

 

[Rebels57]

For Vegas to not take Manson or Vaatanen, Theodore plus '18 1st, plus more ?

I cant wrap my head around how dumb Anaheim is.

Buy-out Bieksa if he wouldnt waive his NMC.

Protect Manson.

Then either let Vegas take the injured Vatanen or work out a side deal involving just him. Manson being in the mix means Anaheim has to pay even MORE in a side deal.

Hilarious.

 

[The Burdened]

I think our main competition to trade for a goalie from Vegas is probably Winnipeg (ARI probably goes UFA route for the time being). Even then, Jets have Hellebyuck so I don't know if they would pay a 2nd round price for a goalie.

I'm more than comfortable trading #44 + for a goalie like Mrazek (or if Hextall likes Grubauer or one of the others, then I support him going for it)

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Snow's an idiot but I can't see De Haan not being included in that list of players not to take if their ponying up the 15th overall pick.

Ultimately this is what happens when you have a moron GM in charge who's desperate to win in the short term. He didn't make a move prior to today & now he's the one paying the price instead.

 

[The Madrigal]

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The more I think about it maybe protecting Stolarz is so the Flyers can use him in a trade to get a veteran GT, perhaps at the draft

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Panotch has been down this road before:

 

[FLYguy3911]

True, but it could be a situation where Hextall tells GMGM that he would give up X amount for someone like Mrazek if they take him and the two sides prearrange a deal.

Hextall could have dealt directly with Holland before the expansion deadline if he was that desperate for him.

 

[Sawdalite]

Panotch has been down this road before:

I seriously thought that that was from last week at first... there were some who suggested that Ghost was signed to move him.

I don't recall if Timmy was in that camp or not... I got confused when Weber's name popped up in there with Nashville... Then I saw the 2014.

 

[Winston Wolf]

I will be extremely disappointed if Hextall doesn't get one of Grubauer, Mrazek, or Raanta.

I can't imagine it would cost more than a 2nd and maybe a mid level prospect. It's also not like any of those 3 teams have any great players to take besides those goalies anyways.

 

[The Burdened]

Hextall could have dealt directly with Holland before the expansion deadline if he was that desperate for him.

Holland may not have wanted to deal Mrazek within the conference tbf.

There is always that risk with a goalie like when San Jose traded Kiprusoff to Calgary.

 

[Curufinwe]

Here's my first crack at a Vegas team with the real protection lists. I have Anaheim taking Kerdiles due to their deal. Vancouver and Edmonton have straight garbage to pick from.

15 forwards + Shipachyov, 10 dmen and 5 goalies, but Ullmark is waiver exempt so he can go to the AHL. Cap hit is $61.5M.


Wilson-Shipachyov-Smith
Perron-Karlsson-Stempniak
Lewis-Eakin-Brouwer
Raffl-Kruger-Dano
(Burmistrov(RFA), Chaput (RFA), Kerdiles, Khaira)

Methot-Martin
De Haan-Dumba
Davidson-McQuaid
Ouelett-Dotchin
Marincin-Merrill

MAF
Raanta
Grubauer
Pickard
Ullmark

 

[GKJ]

Holland may not have wanted to deal Mrazek within the conference tbf.

There is always that risk with a goalie like when San Jose traded Kiprusoff to Calgary.

If he was willing to expose him and lose him for nothing, he's already taking that risk. He knows that teams like us are looking for someone.

 

[The Madrigal]

Holland may not have wanted to deal Mrazek within the conference tbf.

There is always that risk with a goalie like when San Jose traded Kiprusoff to Calgary.

Exactly. One thing (trading with Detroit) doesn't necessarily have to do with the other (trading with Vegas).

 

[The Burdened]

If he was willing to expose him and lose him for nothing, he's already taking that risk. He knows that teams like us are looking for someone.

I know I'm grasping lel, I just really want us to be aggressive and get a goalie from Vegas.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

True, but it could be a situation where Hextall tells GMGM that he would give up X amount for someone like Mrazek if they take him and the two sides prearrange a deal.

They would be dumb not to take him. Detroit has such a load of crap exposed otherwise and even the players they protected like Abdelkader, Zetterberg, Dekeyser, Nielsen and Howard are signed to awful contracts that no one in their right mind would be interested in them anyway.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

I think our main competition to trade for a goalie from Vegas is probably Winnipeg (ARI probably goes UFA route for the time being). Even then, Jets have Hellebyuck so I don't know if they would pay a 2nd round price for a goalie.

I'm more than comfortable trading #44 + for a goalie like Mrazek (or if Hextall likes Grubauer or one of the others, then I support him going for it)

Is Arizona really interested in improving or are they still gonna tank?

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I did a mock on CapFriendly and came up with this team. No trades involved. Probably unlikely that they take too many bad contracts but I could see them grabbing a guy like Ryan. They'll need to put butts in the seats and have some name recognition, as well as meet the salary cap floor. This team has a ggod mix of youth and vets and will have some chips to trade too in the goalie area, though it sounds like deals are already in works to prevent them from taking a lot of these players.

Forwards: Ryan, Plekanec, Neal, Gaborik, Pouliot, Hagelin, Eakin, Dorsett, Strome, Nordstrom, Shinkaruk, Rychel, Dano, Marchessault, Carrier, Grigorenko

Defensemen: Vatanen, Klein, Dumba, Schlemko, Bortuzzo, Merrill, MDZ, Pokka, Koekkoek

Goalies: Mrazek, Grubbauer, Subban, Korpisalo, Domingue

 

[Hurricane28]

Isn't Brock Nelson exposed too? 45 point player still young. Not sure what NYI is doing.

 

[ajgoal]

Holland may not have wanted to deal Mrazek within the conference tbf.

There is always that risk with a goalie like when San Jose traded Kiprusoff to Calgary.

Also, trading with Detroit ahead of the ED means that the Flyers risk losing Stolarz.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Holland is doing bang up job to destroy his legacy.