Evaluate players 1st round

[Tyson]

P.K. Subban - B- he has another level
Tomas Plekanec - C+ he did a lot of great things but he definitely can bring more
Torrey Mitchell - C he did is job. Not great, not bad
Brian Flynn - C-, nothing after game 1
Max Pacioretty - coming back from a concussion. I will give him an incomplete.
Dale Weise - A-, for a grinder he does his job damn well and scored a GWG in OT
Brendan Gallagher - A- his relentless effort, his determination is inspiring
Alex Galchenyuk - C, disappointed
Lars Eller - A, the best forward in all facets, he was the one forward no Ottawa Dman could handle
David Desharnais - D- simply too small, can't compete in the postseason. A liability.
Brandon Prust - B-, solid effort
Greg Pateryn - B-, played solid D. Was completely at ease having him out there.
Tom Gilbert - C, I just cringe when he is out there. He does on occasion make a big play though.
Andrei Markov - C-, This was the worst I have ever seen Markov play in 13+ years.
Alexei Emelin - B-, he got better as the series moved along.
Devante Smith-Pelly - D+, expecting way more. Very disappointed
Nathan Beaulieu - C, he only played 3 games, all 3 wins...he still has not evolved as I hoped.
Jeff Petry - B+, Habs best D IMO in this round
Jacob De La Rose - C+, he got better as the series moved along. He plays solid defensively. Still a teenager
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau - D, Clearly not worth the 4 million per. He brings less than Briere.
Price- A+! Nothing to add! The best there is.

 

[Mcnofool6110]

Seeing Petry happy and successful on my East team makes me happy but also then sad.

 

[Natey]

if effort alone warrants a B, think you should upgrade scores on some players...

No way does Desharnais deserve an A or a B. He's definitely a C or D, depending on your ranking.

But it's clear the people who have an agenda.. aka the ones that put Pacioretty above by full grades or more. I'd say the same for Galchenyuk and Plekanec, who were also not good at all.

In fact, our only good Top-6 forward was Gallagher and he still wasn't great.

 

[Natey]

The Good: Price, Eller, Gallagher, Petry, Prust, Gilbert

The Bad: Pacioretty, Desharnais

The Ugly: Galchenyuk, Markov

Add Plekanec, Parenteau, and DSP to the "Bad" and add Pateryn to the "Good" and I agree.

Price, Petty, Gallagher, Eller and somewhat Subban and Weise. The rest...no words for them

Gilbert? Pateryn?

 

[Darz]

A - Weise Price Eller

B - Petry Gallagher Mitchell Gilbert Pateryn

D - Pacorietty Markov Emelin Parenteau

everyone else gets C's

 

[Natey]

A - Weise Price Eller

B - Petry Gallagher Mitchell Gilbert Pateryn

D - Pacorietty Markov Emelin Parenteau

everyone else gets C's

The only big change I'd argue here is Flynn. As much as he didn't do much after the first two games... 3 points and a win is mostly credited to him... and no one would have guessed that coming in.

 

[Boud]

From an outside perspective.

Players who played great
- Carey Price(Hallelujah)
- Lars Eller (He was a key component for Montreal wining over 80% faceoff game 6)
- Dale Weise (Stepped up in key moments)
- Jeff Petry (Best defensemen easily)
- Tom Gilbert (Showed great things)
- Gallagher ( Warrior)

Players who played not so great
- PK Subban (Had a rough time from game 3 to 6 especially for his standards)
- Andrei Markov ( Montreal's worst player by far)
- Max Pacioretty (Did he play?)
- Alex Galchenyuk (Did he play?)


I think to go far in the playoffs you need your best players be your best players. Price was up to the task but the other guys mentionned need to step up big time if Habs want to make it to the semi-final. Especially Pacioretty, Habs will need him to spark this anemic offense group.

 

[Andy]

A+: Price
A: Eller, Petry
B+: Gallagher, Prust, Mitchell, Pateryn (surprised me)
B: Subban, Gilbert (had a very good series outside game 4), Flynn (trailed off after game 1)
B-: Plekanec, Emelin, Weise (didn't do much all series outside game 3), Beaulieu (had a really bad game in game 3?)
C: Markov, Desharnais,
D: Galchenyuk, DLR, Pacioretty, DSP (the guy was invisible for 80% of the series)
F: Parenteau

 

[Number 57]

Lars Eller (8/10)
Dale Weise (8/10)
Brendan Gallagher (8/10)
Tomas Plekanec (7/10)
Brandon Prust (7/10)
Brian Flynn (7/10)
Torrey Mitchell (6/10)
Devante Smith-Pelly (6/10)
Alex Galchenyuk (5/10)
Max Pacioretty (5/10)
David Desharnais (5/10)
Jacob De La Rose (5/10)
PA Parenteau (4/10)

Jeff Petry (9/10)
PK Subban (8/10)
Tom Gilbert (7/10)
Andrei Markov (6/10)
Alexei Emelin (6/10)
Greg Pateryn (6/10)
Nathan Beaulieu (6/10)

Carey Price (9.5/10)

For those giving Flynn a bad grade, he was the reason we won game 1. He's just a 4th liner. He didn't hurt us in any way in the other games. He did more than expected of him. He deserves a 7/10. He's been better than JDLR for sure...

Is Bournival healthy ? I would like to see him play. I'd sit Desharnais and PAP.

Pacioretty Plekanec Weise
De La Rose Galchenyuk Gallagher
Prust Eller Smith-Pelly
Bournival Mitchell Flynn
Malhotra / Desharnais / Parenteau

 

[Lebowski]

For all of their flaws, I'm not sure benching DD and PAP in favor of Flynn/DLR/Bournival is the way to go. You're scratching 2 guys with, at least, some track record as offensive contributors for 3 guys with limited upside that are better suited for 4th line duties.

DD and PAP are fine - good, even - if used on a third line. The line-up you're suggesting just doesn't have nearly enough punch offensively, in my opinion.

 

[ECWHSWI]

As little offense Montreal generated, Desharnais seemed to be involved in most of it and was solid defensively as well. I see no problem with his game if you look at it with realistic expectations.

They can't all be Gallaghers and they can't all be Gaudreaus. Although I don't see him as a long-term solution at all, he's a solid player for right now.

think you forgot this ->

 

[Mike Hasselhoffman]

Based on what they're capable of:

Forwards:

Jacob De La Rose: C+. He got better as the series went on, nothing special, but he's still really young

David Desharnais: C+. Didn't contribute much offensively and shouldn't be on the PP over Eller, but he battled hard

Lars Eller: A-. Our best forward, the fact that MT doesn't give him consistent PP time baffles me, was key on defensive zone draws

Brian Flynn: B-. He's a 4th line guy, won us game 1, didn't do much afterwards, but we can't expect much more from him anyways

Alex Galchenyuk: C-. Aside from the OT goal, didn't really do anything, he's capable of so much more

Brendan Gallagher: B+. Consistent effort, got better as the series went on, relentless in puck persuit, competed hard

Torrey Mitchell: A-. Did well on face-offs, chipped in some offense, can't expect much more from him

Max Pacioretty: B-. Probably wasn't 100%, so he won't get a C, he's capable of a lot more but again, probably wasn't 100%

P-A Parenteau: C-. Didn't really bring anything to the table

Tomas Plekanec: C+. Played decent, not a liability, but didn't really perform to his standards

Brandon Prust: B+. Battled hard, brought a good effort each game

Devante Smith-Pelly: C. Played well in games 1 and 2, physical, became invisible after that

Dale Weise: A-. Was great in the OT win, competed well, can't expect much more, was real good in his role

Defensemen:

Nathan Beaulieu: C+. Looked decent before he got injured, still waiting for him to take the next step forward

Alexei Emelin: B-. Did a good job throwing hits, took some bad penalties, but was decent overall

Tom Gilbert: B+. Looked good out there, a few bad plays but played well overall

Andrei Markov: C-. Not a good series for him, looked slow, made some really bad decisions, expected much more from the smartest player on the team

Greg Pateryn: B. Didn't seem like a liability, played well in his role as a physical defenseman

Jeff Petry: A. Arguably our best defenseman out there, played great, really took over in game 1 after Subban was ejected, really hope we can re-sign him

P.K. Subban: B+. Played well, but I'm still looking to see the Subban we saw last year in the playoffs

Goaltenders:

Carey Price: A. Our best player (again), aside from game 5, he looked great, if we go deep this year, it'll be because of Price.

 

[RussCourtnallsGhost]

Based on expectations:

A-
Price, pretty good series, one bad game, outstanding final game.

B+
Jeff Petry
Dale Weise
Lars Eller
Torrey Mitchell
Devante Smith-Pelly

B
PK Subban
Gallagher
Greg Pateryn
Nathan Beaulieu
Brian Flynn

C
Plekanec
Tom Gilbert

D
Jacob De La Rose, Alex Galchenyuk, Alexei Emelin

F
Markov, Desharnais, Pacioretty


So yeah, our goalie and our role players really saved our butts. Also, Ottawa played good, but still, they say you win with your best players, but we didn’t this round; can’t rely on Dutch Gretzky to win us the cup.

 

[shawdowmaker]

How some of you can give DD an F is beyond me!! For his size and skill he was one of the most visible players for the habs!!! He played his butt off vs a tenacious opponent.

 

[RussCourtnallsGhost]

How some of you can give DD an F is beyond me!! For his size and skill he was one of the most visible players for the habs!!! He played his butt off vs a tenacious opponent.

He skated hard, stopped, was gently pushed over onto the ice, then the Sens counter-attacked.

Him and Pacioretty had one good moment all series on their goal, that was pretty much it. That's a hard fail for two guys that are given every opportunity to succeed.

 

[MD thaivuN]

A: Price, Eller, Petry, Gallagher, Subban
B: Weise, Gilbert
D: Galchenyuk, Markov, Emelin, Pacioretty
F: PAP (He offers the least based on his role; An offensive player who offers nothing else but offense and who can't produce top 6 level numbers even with lots of PP . You have guys who plays the occasional bad games, but PAP is simply useless)

C: The Rest

 

[Nynja*]

Everyone ******** on Markov, and rightfully so, but how much of that is the possibility that his tank is running empty already? 25 minutes a game for 81 games at 36 might be a bit too much?

 

[Kraken Jokes]

think you forgot this ->

I doubt it.

I am far from being a Desharnais fan... I don't even see him in a Habs uniform by the end of next year, but I give credit where it is due. If you hate him so much that you refuse to pay attention to all the good things he does out there on the ice, that's your issue. I saw things differently.

I think the only reason he gets so much flack around here is because he's not the prototypical #1 centre and some people can't handle that. Despite it, he's a good, hardworking player at both ends with pretty good puck skills and vision. He's best with someone who can finish.

 

[Natey]

How is Pateryn anything less than a B+? Dude hasn't screwed up that I remember and has TWO points in two games.

Pateryn has more points than Petry, Markov, Emelin, Beaulieu, or Gilbert.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Everyone ******** on Markov, and rightfully so, but how much of that is the possibility that his tank is running empty already? 25 minutes a game for 81 games at 36 might be a bit too much?

Markov didn't have a good series but I think he'll be better next series. I'm not too worried.

 

[Hackett]

Everyone ******** on Markov, and rightfully so, but how much of that is the possibility that his tank is running empty already? 25 minutes a game for 81 games at 36 might be a bit too much?

Well, that's the popular theory. The fatigue is mental as well as physic based on some of the strange decisions he is making out there, and its going to affect his confidence (if it hasn't already), and make things worse.

I would really just like him to simplify his game right now. Just focus on sound positioning and safe plays, and hopefully rebuild his game from there.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Impressed by Price, Pateryn and Eller. Liked Mitchell, Flynn and Gallagher. Weise was ok, too many floating nights early on.

I understand Markov, Subban and Gilbert's troubles.

Furious at Pacioretty, Desharnais (like always) and Galchenyuk.

 

[Kachino]

Everyone ******** on Markov, and rightfully so, but how much of that is the possibility that his tank is running empty already? 25 minutes a game for 81 games at 36 might be a bit too much?

I always thought Markov played a bit much especially after hitting 35. The minutes he plays are also tough minutes too (PP, ES, SH), a huge majority of time against top opposition. Oh yeah, the game is played at a faster pace. Forwards are young and fast. Markov is a player that relies on being smart on the ice. However, at one point especially in the playoffs, being smart is not just enough. At one point, you need speed to counter speed. You need physical play to counter physical player ... or whatever adjustments you need to do in order to counter/contain what the opposition is throwing at you.

Anyways, hopefully, he will have the chance to forget about round 1 and come back to his normal level of play in the following round.

 

[shawdowmaker]

He skated hard, stopped, was gently pushed over onto the ice, then the Sens counter-attacked.

Him and Pacioretty had one good moment all series on their goal, that was pretty much it. That's a hard fail for two guys that are given every opportunity to succeed.

One good moment right? Shows you were not the one getting slammed into the boards by a bigger team. Habs battled hard and won as a team.

 

[Lebowski]

Impressed by Price, Pateryn and Eller. Liked Mitchell, Flynn and Gallagher. Weise was ok, too many floating nights early on.

I understand Markov, Subban and Gilbert's troubles.

Furious at Pacioretty, Desharnais (like always) and Galchenyuk.

Wait, Subban had "troubles" now?

He played a great series overall. Just not to the level most would expect out of "playoffs Subban". But troubles, really? Am I missing something?