Friedman: Ethan Bear requests a trade, Canucks, Capitals, Leafs have shown interest

[Transplanted Caper]

Is Bear better than Justin Holl?

An ACTUAL bear would be better than Holl, lately.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

What are the Canes planning to get in this lop-sided trade? A better pick than they should be getting? Kuzmenko? Joshua?

If I had to guess, the Canes like to stack up on D, so they'd probably trade Bear for a vet who doesn't mind being the 7th D

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

If I had to guess, the Canes like to stack up on D, so they'd probably trade Bear for a vet who doesn't mind being the 7th D

They already have 7 d ahead of Bear, including a vet who doesn’t mind not playing every game.

Jalen Chatfield seems to have cemented himself as 3rd pairing RD and then Dylan Coghlan and Calvin de Haan have been splitting time at 3rd pairing LD.

 

[jackjohnson]

Who sits for bear? Is he that much of an upgrade over those guys?

He is an upgrade to Noah Juulsen.

What are the Canes planning to get in this lop-sided trade? A better pick than they should be getting? Kuzmenko? Joshua?

Kuzmenko for Bear??

Kuzmenko for Bear? Is that crazy?

Yes thats dumb for Canucks. No way we give up Kuzmenko when we just signed him

 

[Eggtimer]

Somewhat off-topic , but how the hell didnt these teams interested in Bear , offer more than what the Devils did to get Marino? Marino has been amazing so far for us. Pens trading him in division is kinda odd to me . I guess they really liked Ty Smith over other options? Who knows what was all offered , but I just thought Marino would have been highly sought after bu these teams

 

[TS Quint]

Huh? Where did I say I hated anyone? It was a simple question, I haven't seen Bear play much but he's a RHD which is where we should be looking to improve.

Holl is the Leafs #1 right hand shooting defenseman and you think Bear might better? Doesnt sound like you are in love with Holl that’s for sure.

 

[SwedishFire]

3-way trade.

Bear --> Detroit
Puljujärvi --> Carolina
Zadina --> Edmonton.

Fill in the incentives.

Ehhh oilers says NOooOO!!

I thought Zadina was something, they arent.

Bear -> Washington
Yamamoto -> Carolina
LD -> Oilers

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Huh? Where did I say I hated anyone? It was a simple question, I haven't seen Bear play much but he's a RHD which is where we should be looking to improve.

He's better then at Holl at some things but he's not really great at anything. His transition, break out game is pretty good but he needs to play a simple mistake free type game to be of value. The problem is he's just not blessed with physical skills. Kind of small, not a great skater, not physical. He has pretty good IQ I would say but he gets into trouble when he tries to do to much or things that he's just not generally capable of executing. His style could work as a top 4 with a strong stay at home partner but he's definitely not gonna carry a pairing. Most teams want physical, defence first minded guys on their bottom pairing and he just isn't that at all. He has shown flashes of being that top 4 guy but conditioning and consistency are his problem.

 

[Mugzy97]

Holl is the Leafs #1 right hand shooting defenseman and you think Bear might better? Doesnt sound like you are in love with Holl that’s for sure.

I asked if he was better, I never said I think he might be better. Am I in love with Holl? No, but I think he should be on a bottom pairing on a healthy lineup.

He's better then at Holl at some things but he's not really great at anything. His transition, break out game is pretty good but he needs to play a simple mistake free type game to be of value. The problem is he's just not blessed with physical skills. Kind of small, not a great skater, not physical. He has pretty good IQ I would say but he gets into trouble when he tries to do to much or things that he's just not generally capable of executing. His style could work as a top 4 with a strong stay at home partner but he's definitely not gonna carry a pairing. Most teams want physical, defence first minded guys on their bottom pairing and he just isn't that at all. He has shown flashes of being that top 4 guy but conditioning and consistency are his problem.

Sounds like Dermott

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I asked if he was better, I never said I think he might be better. Am I in love with Holl? No, but I think he should be on a bottom pairing on a healthy lineup.


Sounds like Dermott

Yeah... I'd actually say that's pretty accurate.

 

[CanadienShark]

The poster you responded to is an Edmonton fan and was talking about Edmonton’s defense.

Oops.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Trade request merchant.

 

[LookintheMirror]

Given Edmonton’s early-season defensive struggles I could see Holland reacquiring Bear, who had a brief streak of strong play next to Darnell Nurse a couple years back.

If I was an Oilers fan, I'd love to see Bear back...

 

[McShogun99]

If I was an Oilers fan, I'd love to see Bear back...

I wouldn't. He's a slow, small Dman that chokes under pressure. He's also overpaid for a 3rd pairing Dman. He's a good Dman for a rebuilding team but not on a team that's trying to contend.

I wouldn't put him abpve Ceci, Bouchard or Barrie on the right side.

 

[CycloneSweep]

If I was an Oilers fan, I'd love to see Bear back...

If he was a left shot d than sure but our right side is currently full up. Maybe if we move Barrie for a left shot but as is, Bear would be our 4th best right d.

 

[barriers]

 

[MMC]

 

[Folignos Helmet]

Engvall for Bear so we can all finally see Rod’s vein pop when he has to watch Pierre float around the ice.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

I’d give it another game or two before going for this. Dude is not good from what I’ve seen, and our D looked better against the.. Habs. So. Really not sure if he’s an upgrade or a lateral move, if they want a 7th sure, otherwise they can kick rocks.

 

[MMC]

What’s the ask from Anaheim if we absorb the entire cap hit?

 

[Discipline Daddy]

What’s the ask from Anaheim if we absorb the entire cap hit?

I think Bear's value is a 3rd round pick. At some point he might be dealt for a lower pick, but if Don Waddell isn't getting offers around a 3rd in value, he'd probably rather just hold onto the asset all season as an injury replacement. The Canes don't need to make any moves to stay cap compliant so there's no pressure. I do think we'd probably do some retention if the other team needed at and if we were getting an asset back.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I don't think Bear has any value and if waived may not even be picked up.

I can see a Holl / Bear trade.

 

[Oilslick941611]

He's a number 2 at defense, thats for sure.

That’s funny, when he was an oiler we were told he’s a 7th d on any other team

 

[ATypicalCanadian]