Speculation: Erik Karlsson
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Todd1a
Kucherov or prospect
Cmac66
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Fabiobest
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I've said that Tavares would play for the Maple Leafs, and I was right.
Now I say that Erik Karlsson will play for the Vegas Golden Knights.
Now I say that Erik Karlsson will play for the Vegas Golden Knights.
We might be able to work some kind of three way deal to get Ryan off the books. Keep in mind it was Larry Brooks who started this up, a NYR guy. NYR is in a retool/rebuild, so they can take on money (hell, look at Vlad's contract), and they need youth.
I honestly think we'll have to give Ottawa Sergachev to beat Vegas's offer. And then we'll have to give up something like Foote to get NYR to take Bobby Ryan's contract. But Karlsson would come signed, probably to a team-friendly deal.
I honestly think we'll have to give Ottawa Sergachev to beat Vegas's offer. And then we'll have to give up something like Foote to get NYR to take Bobby Ryan's contract. But Karlsson would come signed, probably to a team-friendly deal.
Fabiobest
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Me too I hope I'm wrong...but I don't believe in EK here. For many reasons: Bobby Ryan contract, the same EK that will be very expensive, for example.I hope your wrong lol. Obviously I want him here
Like JT, also EK for us would be a luxury, not a need.
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I think I'd pass if this is what it came down to. I'm not sure how we'd fill the rest of our D without Sergachev + Foote on ELCs. Cernak + KK + a depth signing/Dotchin? Have Hedman/Karlsson/McDonagh each babysit someone? Could create even more problems.
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If we want him now its going to take a lot of maneuvering and most likely have to facilitate a 3 team trade. It's too complicated and I don't think SY wants to do that much in so little time. I think we wait till FA and see what our situation is then. We can make space and if hes a FA then we sign him. Dont have to lose anybody unless on our terms. Problem is he may get traded and extended. If that is the case it just wasnt meant to be. Unless they want to do all that maneuvering in a little time. Would be fun to see at least.
Spirit of 67
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I too think he goes to Vegas.
But, if not there, I'm betting we're surprised by who it turns out to be.
But, if not there, I'm betting we're surprised by who it turns out to be.
TeslaCoilFan
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Yeah, I think Vegas is the most probable place for EK to end up as well.
But this is SFY they're dealing with so who the hell knows what could happen??
But this is SFY they're dealing with so who the hell knows what could happen??
I think it's clear at this point that if the Lightning want Karlsson that it has to be right now, there is no next year for signing him.
VinikToWinIt
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It seems at this point that any team trading for him will have an extension in place.
Todd1a
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Cmac66
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Will be interesting to see if Yzerman does pull the trigger and try and go for Karlsson, there seems to be a few teams who are in talks with Ottawa over a deal. By us not being able to afford Ryan contract i don't think that we are a front runner for getting Karlsson.
I think it's pretty plausible that we're already trying to bring a third team (NYR) in to take Ryan's contract.
Vasilevskiy
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I think we are getting him. Its nothing more than a feeling, but there is a lot of smoke.
Send Cal Foote to OTT, a 1st, and Killorn/TJ, Raddysh is expendable as well and should be given to the team taking Ryan (maybe a 2nd rounder too?)
Hedman-Karlsson-McD-Serge
Makes us automatically set as the best D in the league for at least 5 years. Foote looks OK but honestly, we don't need him with those 4 in the team. We could fill the other two spots with players like Cernak and a vet D like Brewer/Girardi.
EK is sweet about TB, and we might not have the chance in decades to get a player like him again. Just go for it.
Send Cal Foote to OTT, a 1st, and Killorn/TJ, Raddysh is expendable as well and should be given to the team taking Ryan (maybe a 2nd rounder too?)
Hedman-Karlsson-McD-Serge
Makes us automatically set as the best D in the league for at least 5 years. Foote looks OK but honestly, we don't need him with those 4 in the team. We could fill the other two spots with players like Cernak and a vet D like Brewer/Girardi.
EK is sweet about TB, and we might not have the chance in decades to get a player like him again. Just go for it.
Todd1a
Kucherov or prospect
And does not mean he wAnts to sign anywhere if he heart is set on Tampa he may wait a year
I think the biggest thing for Karlsson is to get the hell out of Ottawa. His preference may be Tampa, but if it helps facilitate a deal for him to go somewhere in a good position I'm sure he'll sign an extension with another team.
Stammertime91
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IF point takes 5M, Stralman 4M, and both Kucherov and Karlsson settled at 10M, we could do it. The problem another year or two down the line is resigning Sergachev, giving Vasy a raise, etc when we don't have anymore "bad" contracts to shed. We would then be looking at removing ANOTHER middle 6 forward like Killorn or Palat. This will be after letting Gourde walk, moving Johnson and losing Killorn or Palat. That's a lot of trust in rookies to fill in those places and holes in the bottom 6 over the next two years.
The more I look at us sacrificing offense in a time where "defense wins championships" isn't entirely the MO to winning a cup, the more I'm skeptical of this. We would have roughly 24M tied up in three defenseman, and over half the cap tied up in 3 defenseman, Kucherov and Stamkos. Roughly 43M/79.5M. It would help if we had another guy to bridge but when key pieces to the roster are nearly all 5M cap hits, that's a lot to move and hopefully replace by guys with zero NHL experience.
Stammertime91
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Pretty much what I've come to terms with. If we kept Sergachev by some magical way, we don't need to resign Stralman. If we move Sergachev, all we need is one of Dotchin or Cernak to fill in the bottom pairing as Foote won't be needed. Losing a guy like Raddysh wouldn't hurt too bad either.
The biggest hang up is how many guys are we going to bring up that can play and produce if we did this? Starting in 2019-2020 it could be three and we would need them to be like the Crunch wave from 5 or 6 years ago. It's not impossible but its risky.
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