Erik Karlsson (Part 3)

[Fistfullofbeer]

They have a lot of $ coming off the books at the end of the year.

They will have 2 D-men re-signed at the end of the season. One of them being Sergachev who is an RFA the following year and will get a big raise. Also, Vasilevsky is guaranteed to get a big raise at the same time as Sergachev. The do get some cap freed at the same time by releasing Callahan but not quite enough I dont think.

Their bigger issue at the end of this season is going to be re-signing Point who would most definitely get a big raise. I do think they can potentially sign EK65 but they are bound to have even more cap issues than us.

 

[SharksFan1]

I've been expecting like a 20 goal season from Karlsson, but maybe I should diminish that to something like 10-13.

Based on his time in Ottawa, he averaged 14G/season or 16.5G/82 games. So I'd say expecting more than 15G this season is probably asking a bit much.

 

[Sysreq]

Looks like Tierney and DeMelo have already run afoul a Canadian hockey market scandal!

Although to be fair this only reinforces the notion of Duchene as a locker room cancer.

CANDID CAMERA: Ottawa Senators players caught on video joking about team, badmouthing coach

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Looks like Tierney and DeMelo have already run afoul a Canadian hockey market scandal!

Although to be fair this only reinforces the notion of Duchene as a locker room cancer.

CANDID CAMERA: Ottawa Senators players caught on video joking about team, badmouthing coach

Days since last Ottawa Senators incident: 0

 

[WSS11]

That’s going to be one awkward practice tomorrow

 

[Tw1ster]

Are Uber drivers allowed to post what goes on in their cars?

 

[Sysreq]

The more I think about it, I really think this sets the precedent for Duchene needing to be traded. I don’t know if I want him on the Sharks to be honest. Most of what was said was normal banter you hear in any job when a group goes out. Everyone has that boss they hate, it’s kind of whatever. And for guys like Tierney, DeMelo, Chabot, they honesty aren’t really in a place to really disagree with Duchene. They laugh along and pull some stats, but the attitude is all Duchene. For a newer guy on the team, you really have to court favor with influencers like that to avoid being an out cast. I can say that I think Tierney would have been in the wrong to make a stand and disagree and make himself seem like an outsider. So I don’t really blame them. I think it really comes down to Duchene being a toxic player.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

They have a lot of $ coming off the books at the end of the year.

Tampa has like 11.2 mil in unrestricted money coming up with Point needing a new deal. They can't really commit to anyone else since they have Sergachev and Vasilevskiy to re-sign next year. They will be out of the Karlsson running unless they make some major moves.

 

[tiburon12]

Looks like Tierney and DeMelo have already run afoul a Canadian hockey market scandal!

Although to be fair this only reinforces the notion of Duchene as a locker room cancer.

CANDID CAMERA: Ottawa Senators players caught on video joking about team, badmouthing coach

I hope Kurz or some other bozo doesnt ask Karlsson some question about this incident.

 

[Solmors]

Are Uber drivers allowed to post what goes on in their cars?

I don't know if Uber has it's own rules, but Arizona is a single party consent state for recording audio/video.

 

[Stylizer1]

So, how is Karlsson playing?

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

So, how is Karlsson playing?

Tonight is his best game so far. Tune in.

 

[Anomie2029]

I don't know if Uber has it's own rules, but Arizona is a single party consent state for recording audio/video.

It's against the Terms of Service, so the driver will be booted from being an Uber driver.
Nothing illegal though.

 

[yababy]

Two things are now obvious
1. Karlsson is not getting Doughty money
2. Karlsson is not signing with San Jose and playing second fiddle to Brent Burns

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Two things are now obvious
1. Karlsson is not getting Doughty money
2. Karlsson is not signing with San Jose and playing second fiddle to Brent Burns

3. You’re not welcome here.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Two things are now obvious
1. Karlsson is not getting Doughty money
2. Karlsson is not signing with San Jose and playing second fiddle to Brent Burns

Did you decide to have a healthy helping of delusion?

 

[ChubbChubby]

Karlsson either can't or really does not like to skate backwards, which is weird to see from a defenseman. Feels like he's backchecking all the time even when he's above the play so I can totally see why people are saying he can't pivot.

 

[Agent Zub]

Karlsson either can't or really does not like to skate backwards, which is weird to see from a defenseman. Feels like he's backchecking all the time even when he's above the play so I can totally see why people are saying he can't pivot.

karlsson after the cooke slice was different. he had to readjust how to play defense because of it. definitely f***ed up his pivots to right. but he still managed to dominate, which is why i'm not so worried about his broken foot thing.

 

[ChubbChubby]

Thing is it's still hard to defend with your back to a skater going at you at full speed no matter how good you can adapt.

 

[swiftwin]

Karlsson either can't or really does not like to skate backwards, which is weird to see from a defenseman. Feels like he's backchecking all the time even when he's above the play so I can totally see why people are saying he can't pivot.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Karlsson has to be the most purely likable player in the NHL.

 

[Doctor Soraluce]

The more I think about it, I really think this sets the precedent for Duchene needing to be traded. I don’t know if I want him on the Sharks to be honest. Most of what was said was normal banter you hear in any job when a group goes out. Everyone has that boss they hate, it’s kind of whatever. And for guys like Tierney, DeMelo, Chabot, they honesty aren’t really in a place to really disagree with Duchene. They laugh along and pull some stats, but the attitude is all Duchene. For a newer guy on the team, you really have to court favor with influencers like that to avoid being an out cast. I can say that I think Tierney would have been in the wrong to make a stand and disagree and make himself seem like an outsider. So I don’t really blame them. I think it really comes down to Duchene being a toxic player.

That team is a dumpster fire and he got traded there. I'm sure he's pretty frustrated with what a shit show it's been. I'm pretty confident in the Sharks room to keep him in check. What do you think sharks players said about McAllen toward the end of his stay? Bet is was worse than anything heard on the footage in that uber.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Karlsson has to be the most purely likable player in the NHL.

I mean, he is no Burns .. but ...

Kidding. I definitely think he is a very likable guy. We have not seen a lot of his personality on the Sharks because he is still adjusting in but I think if he does re-sign with us we could see him shine here. I think the way the Sharks are run as well as his being surrounded by very good talent will take the load of him enormously to 'carry the team'.

The only concern I have with his level of play with us so far, which I consider below-average for his standards, is that it may influence him re-signing with us. Outside of that, I have no doubt that he bounces back and goes back to being the elite D-man we expect him to be.

 

[one2gamble]

I mean, he is no Burns .. but ...

Kidding. I definitely think he is a very likable guy. We have not seen a lot of his personality on the Sharks because he is still adjusting in but I think if he does re-sign with us we could see him shine here. I think the way the Sharks are run as well as his being surrounded by very good talent will take the load of him enormously to 'carry the team'.

The only concern I have with his level of play with us so far, which I consider below-average for his standards, is that it may influence him re-signing with us. Outside of that, I have no doubt that he bounces back and goes back to being the elite D-man we expect him to be.

The thing is, his just being on the ice keeps other teams honest and they cant key on burns anymore because they will get smoked by him. His points not be piling up right now but he is creating things

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

The thing is, his just being on the ice keeps other teams honest and they cant key on burns anymore because they will get smoked by him. His points not be piling up right now but he is creating things

I agree. And honestly, even if he ends up with 40-45 points this year I would still want him re-signed. The only concern I have with regards to his point totals would be how they would influence his re-signing. Both in terms of:

- How much the Sharks would offer him vs how much he would want?
- Would he consider his low point total(s) with us a sign that he does not fit well with the teams style?