Erik Karlsson on the ice for 7 of the 8 Habs goals

[Laineux]

That was a brutal game from Karlsson from what I saw.

 

[InAllOurLeafsCommand]

Not surprised. Karlsson has never been good defensively, he's just usually lucky enough to be bailed out by goaltending and the system. Last night those two things weren't working.

 

[CDN24]

Great player , he is more Paul Coffey than he is Ray Bourque.

Bingo, he thinks offense first. Its not that he can't play elite defense- it is that he usually doesn't. Historically he is on the ice for a lot of goals for and against 5-5. Last night after they are down and trying to come back it is normal that he will take more chances and get burned more.

He is probably the closest we have had to a paul coffey since Paul Coffey. Great player with offensive skills second to none but the defense is not at the same level.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Serious question, is there a way to ignore threads anymore?

 

[Sojourn]

Serious question, is there a way to ignore threads anymore?

Not that I’ve found.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Not that I’ve found.

Drat. I was hoping I was overlooking it. It made this forum such a more pleasant place.

Sorry for the interruption. You may not return to your regularly scheduled Karlsson thread.

 

[Sojourn]

Drat. I was hoping I was overlooking it. It made this forum such a more pleasant place.

Sorry for the interruption. You may not return to your regularly scheduled Karlsson thread.

Oh, I’m just so excited. We never have these.

 

[NyQuil]

Oh, I’m just so excited. We never have these.

HF's obsession continues.

 

[pucky]

Including a short handed one. Not the brightest night for the golden boy.

He's really overrated or really hasn't ever recovered from that leg/foot injury he had?

 

[TeamRenzo]

Yes, EK had an awful game last night but it was one game, he is still one of the best in the league and hopefully this will motivate the Sens to step their game up. The entire team was a turd last night.

 

[Seb]

He's really overrated or really hasn't ever recovered from that leg/foot injury he had?

Just a hiccup in his great career

 

[winnipegger]

One thing you learn after watching hockey for a while is really good players have really bad games

 

[joe dirte]

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what really is the worst +- stat in a single game all time ?

going back 50 years it was minus 9. I think that might be it.

 

[flamesforcup]

Not surprised. Karlsson has never been good defensively, he's just usually lucky enough to be bailed out by goaltending and the system. Last night those two things weren't working.

He would be the best player in your franchise history

 

[The S5]

Karlsson is fantastic wing disguised as a defense man.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Not surprised. Karlsson has never been good defensively, he's just usually lucky enough to be bailed out by goaltending and the system. Last night those two things weren't working.

Hey it's you! The guy that was in every Ottawa playoff thread this summer bashing the Senators!

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

TJ Brodie was even in a 8-0 loss to Boston way back when... with like 24 minutes of ice time too.

Brett Lebda, playing for the Leafs, was -3 in a 9-3 Leafs win...

https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/201101070ATL.html

 

[kingsfan28]

As bad as it is , it's still pretty amazing to end the night a -6 [-7 if you include the pp goal]. Won't see that happen for a long time.

 

[Pip]

Not surprised. Karlsson has never been good defensively, he's just usually lucky enough to be bailed out by goaltending and the system. Last night those two things weren't working.

That’s absolutely not true

 

[Atoyot]

Karlsson plays the most out of the defensemen on his team.

Therefore it stands to reason that he would get scored on most.

Just happened that a lot came in this game.

+/- is meaningless.

 

[Seb]

People who say +/- is meaningless need to understand that this isn't the point. Being on the ice for 7 goals against in one game is really something odd for ANY player. It is even greater of a thing when the one involved is the best dman in the NHL.

 

[Atoyot]

People who say +/- is meaningless need to understand that this isn't the point. Being on the ice for 7 goals against in one game is really something odd for ANY player. It is even greater of a thing when the one involved is the best dman in the NHL.

Oh it's plenty notable because it's statistically improbable. That's it though, doesn't say anything about Karlsson as much as some people may want it to.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Karlsson is fantastic wing disguised as a defense man.

Even if he was all offence and no defence, the "4th forward" tag is plain dumb.

He's the best puck mover in the league. Transition is arguably the most important part of being a defenceman in the current NHL.

 

[DDRhockey]

Karlsson is fantastic wing disguised as a defense man.

So did the norris winner last season.

 

[The S5]

So did the norris winner last season.

Is your argument that the best defenseman is the one who scores the most?