News: Erik Johnson waives his NMC

[PromisedLand]

someone put me in touch with Sakic. I need his convincing skills

 

[McJedi]

Yeah I think Donskoi is currently move valuable to Colorado while Graves would probably be more valuable league wide.

Both are replaceable though. I bet the Avs hope Seattle takes Donskoi. Graves has more trade value. If both are gone without taking back a contract, Frees up $7.1mm in cap space and Avs will be adding in UFA.

I’d look for ring chasers on one year deals. Hello Ryan Suter.

 

[PromisedLand]

Kadri is an acceptable 2C on a bad team, but he's not a good 2C.

Kadri needs a defensively sound powerforward and either a playmaker/shooter on his line. Kadri with two offensive players is never going to work

 

[McJedi]

And yet a bad season for Kadri was still nearly a 50 point pace over an 82 game season. There's no guarantee the Avs could replace that for $4.5 million. This is just sour grapes.

It’s not. Kadri had one solid season with the Avs and one lousy one followed by his typical playoff meltdown. He’s both inconsistent and unreliable. Great way to describe a 2C on a cup contender? Not exactly. Nor are the likely playoff disappearances. Dude is marked by Parros and his violent gentleman goons in player safety. Plus Kadri is also an idiot.

He’s also no long for the organization as there is no way he gets resigned. So he’s our rental as best case for him. And he’s still not a good 2C. Just an unreliable one coming off a bad season.

$4.5mm in the flat cap era buys you more than it used too. It can buy you more than crappy 2020-2021 Kadri.

and one reason why his point totals declined and disappointed last season. He got himself demoted off PP1. Remember when Mack got hurt and Jost was put on line 1C over Kadri. Kadri’s role and spot on the Avs is undefined, but he’s definitely in the organizations dog house. Not a good place for him to be and the trends are very bad.

 

[McJedi]

Kadri needs a defensively sound powerforward and either a playmaker/shooter on his line. Kadri with two offensive players is never going to work

Kadri sucks at passing. He’s never been a good set up guy. He needs a passer to set him up. His shooting was way below his career average last year. That should improve.

His team worst plus minus of -7 is a result of his frequent brain farts that allow guys like Rakell to walk down the slot uncontested to hammer home goals. Don’t know how you fix Kadri’s many defensive lapses.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Kadri needs a defensively sound powerforward and either a playmaker/shooter on his line. Kadri with two offensive players is never going to work

Interesting considering his first year in Colorado he played mostly with Burakovsky and Donskoi and Kadri had 28 goals and 54 points in 66 games (regular season and playoffs combined).

 

[BKarchitect]

I get that Kadri is not trustworthy and certainly doesn’t fit the mold of an elite #2 center on a Cup team but frankly I’m not so eager to just let him go for a can of beans for this upcoming season given our lack of current options. It’s a contract year so I suspect we will see more of 19-20 Kadri this season. And he was a beast in the 19-20 playoffs with 9 goals and 18 points in 15 games.

There’s good Kadri and there’s bad Kadri. You have to take both. You can’t ignore last season but you also can’t just say the previous season didn’t happen either. If he’s closer to the 19-20 version, he’s certainly an asset you don’t want to dump without better options in place. Let him walk in ‘22, sure. But at the moment? I don’t think so. This team needs guys who can score goals outside the big line. Kadri can which, yes, makes his stupidity driven absence this spring even worse. But he’s who we got right now.

 

[themelkman]

Why wouldn’t he have scored that much on the Sharks? His most common linemates were Val Nichushkin and Tyson Jost last year. Are these the strong teammates he needs which you referred to?
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You don’t think he could have played with similar or perhaps even better talent in SJ?

No I do not. Nichu had a WAR of 1.5, Jost at 0.5. The sharks line mates he would likely have had were Gambrell with -0.11 and Nieto who was worse. The Avs are a supremely dominant team to bottom and Donskoi has fed off that.

 

[McJedi]

And Mersss has his head explode. Screamed as loud as one can that EJ would NEVER waive.

 

[McJedi]

I get that Kadri is not trustworthy and certainly doesn’t fit the mold of an elite #2 center on a Cup team but frankly I’m not so eager to just let him go for a can of beans for this upcoming season given our lack of current options. It’s a contract year so I suspect we will see more of 19-20 Kadri this season. And he was a beast in the 19-20 playoffs with 9 goals and 18 points in 15 games.

There’s good Kadri and there’s bad Kadri. You have to take both. You can’t ignore last season but you also can’t just say the previous season didn’t happen either. If he’s closer to the 19-20 version, he’s certainly an asset you don’t want to dump without better options in place. Let him walk in ‘22, sure. But at the moment? I don’t think so. This team needs guys who can score goals outside the big line. Kadri can which, yes, makes his stupidity driven absence this spring even worse. But he’s who we got right now.

At least your analysis is fair. Not just a mindless platitude that Kadri is a good 2C and those of us Avs fans that don’t think so and worry about his inconsistencies are more than sour grapes.

but I am sour as F Kadri ruined the season with his third playoff meltdown in 4 years. Kadri is a huge reason/liability that saw the Avs go out in round 2 with a whimper.

 

[CanadienShark]

Dammit Johnson. You could have made things difficult for the Avs.

 

[Richard88]

Dammit Johnson. You could have made things difficult for the Avs.

They would've just bought him out, easy.

 

[McJedi]

Dammit Johnson. You could have made things difficult for the Avs.

Like Suter may have on Minnesota?

 

[mouser]

Tbh he would have been bought out if he didn't waive. No disrespect to EJ, but the Avs weren't going to lose one of Toews, Makar or Girard.

They would've just bought him out, easy.

Is Johnson even eligible to be bought out? Injured players cannot be bought out.

Johnson only played 4 games in 2020-21, spending the final 86 days of the regular season on IR and not appearing in a single playoff game. Do we know if he passed his exit physical?

 

[Mac Attack]

@Mersss please post your admission of being wrong here. We deserve that much after all the garbage you have been posting here. Don't hide from your own posts.

 

[Mersss]

@Mersss please post your admission of being wrong here. We deserve that much after all the garbage you have been posting here. Don't hide from your own posts.

Stupidest decision he could've ever taken, I stand by my word. Getting bought out would've bring him more $, plain and simple.

Only positive thing now is that he's a 6M$ bottom pair Dman, and with COL cap structure being real tight with Landy @ 8.5, Makar around 10 and Grubauer around 7/7.5, they won't be able to keep everyone, but still stuck with EJ!

 

[McJedi]

Stupidest decision he could've ever taken, I stand by my word. Getting bought out would've bring him more $, plain and simple.

Only positive thing now is that he's a 6M$ bottom pair Dman, and with COL cap structure being real tight with Landy @ 8.5, Makar around 10 and Grubauer around 7/7.5, they won't be able to keep everyone, but still stuck with EJ!

You stand by being 100% wrong. Got it. Interesting tact but you do you!

 

[GordonGraham]

Players are so dumb showing loyalty to any team , its a business the team doesnt care about you and will drop you when they feel like it

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Why would Seattle take a guy who was out all last season with a $6M+ cap hit who is also out of his prime.

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Well, funny thing here is before I get into the question you asked me, Jets made a trade to protect Toby Enstrom. But if Colorado makes a trade for Seattle to take Johnson, they should do it if only the thing that starts talking is a first rounder++. Something like the Clarkson to Vegas trade.

Seattle should rebuild considering guys like Shane Wright and Connor Bedard are on the rise.

 

[JoemAvs]

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Well, funny thing here is before I get into the question you asked me, Jets made a trade to protect Toby Enstrom. But if Colorado makes a trade for Seattle to take Johnson, they should do it if only the thing that starts talking is a first rounder++. Something like the Clarkson to Vegas trade.

Seattle should rebuild considering guys like Shane Wright and Connor Bedard are on the rise.

The Kraken have no interest in EJ most likely and Sakic has no interest in giving them anything to take (or not take) EJ. Pretty sure part of the agreement to waive was the acknowledgement that Seattle most likely won't take EJ and that EJ gets to stay an Av in return for waiving assuming they don't take him. This was never about creating capspace for the Avs. It was about protection slots.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

The Kraken have no interest in EJ most likely and Sakic has no interest in giving them anything to take EJ. Pretty sure part of the agreement to waive was the acknowledgement that Seattle most likely won't take EJ and that EJ gets to stay an Av in return for waiving assuming they don't take him. This was never about creating capspace for the Avs. It was about protection slots.

I predict Seattle takes Compher from the Avs.

 

[JoemAvs]

I predict Seattle takes Compher from the Avs.

I predict that you are dead wrong. But they would be doing the Avs a huge favor if they do so. Arguably our worst contract after EJ and the hardest one to move as well.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

I was foolish to think that Graves > Toews. Crucify me...
Graves likely gets picked though.

 

[Name Nameless]

Can he waive on the condition they don't make a deal out of it, as in "I waive, but only to be exposed, you are not allowed to bribe them into taking me?"

 

[McJedi]

I predict Seattle takes Compher from the Avs.

Only in Avs fans dreams. Better chance Avs buyout JTC than Seattle takes him. Unless Avs are attaching assets for them to do so.