Confirmed with Link: Eric Staal to NYR for two 2nd round picks + Saarela.

[ReggieDunlop68]

Look...if E. Staal was just suffering from boredom in Carolina, the Caps won't beat us.

 

[RGY]

Look...if E. Staal was just suffering from boredom in Carolina, the Caps won't beat us.

He specifically pointed to missing the playoffs for 6 straight seasons being hard for him as the captain of the team in the press conference. His vision is to win the cup as he alluded to.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Look...if E. Staal was just suffering from boredom in Carolina, the Caps won't beat us.

I wondered about this. He had a long term contract with a franchise that isn't winning and he's the captain. He also already has a cup, and has accomplished a lot. Complacency wouldn't surprise me.

 

[The Gloaming]

I wondered about this. He had a long term contract with a franchise that isn't winning and he's the captain. He also already has a cup, and has accomplished a lot. Complacency wouldn't surprise me.

Maybe he wants to help Marc win a Cup. The only Staal bro without one if we're not including Jared.

Then Marc can ride off into the sunset.

 

[TheTakedown]

Frankly, I'm starting to see this as Marc's going away present. He gets one more run on this team, now with his brother.

I see this as well

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

He specifically pointed to missing the playoffs for 6 straight seasons being hard for him as the captain of the team in the press conference. His vision is to win the cup as he alluded to.

I wondered about this. He had a long term contract with a franchise that isn't winning and he's the captain. He also already has a cup, and has accomplished a lot. Complacency wouldn't surprise me.

I mean he got great money, but I sincerely doubt he thought the Canes would dive into the ****ter so quickly after the cup. At that time, he would have gotten a ******** of money to play for many different teams, and Jordon wasn't acquired until later.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Maybe he wants to help Marc win a Cup. The only Staal bro without one if we're not including Jared.

Then Marc can ride off into the sunset.

Aside from winning the cup being the main goal for the majority of hockey players since their mother's water broke, the Hurricane's suck ass, and we have the King.

I think things worked out ok for Eric when he was inspired and he had a hot goalie. I'll have to Wiki that though.

Also, Marc is not retiring.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Maybe he wants to help Marc win a Cup. The only Staal bro without one if we're not including Jared.

Then Marc can ride off into the sunset.

Win win win all around for everyone.


Idk, but if Eric Staal can turn back the clock and play like he's 6-7 years younger just for the next 45 games, we're all going to be very happy. Maybe coming to a team with a winning culture, where the cup is expected and playing with talented players will revitalize him. We don't need his career to be revitalized, just him for the next half a season worth of games. That's it.

 

[chosen]

The problem with this trade is much larger than Saarela, its that this team has no future because these trades happen every year. Oldest roster in the league, and only one impact prospect who might not even want to leave Russia.

Not all trades are the same.

I hated the St. Louis trade. Gave up way too much.

Gave up much less for Staal and I would rather have Staal than St. Louis.

And, if you're right about Buchenevich, then it was an insanely stupid pick.

Winning the Cup is the goal. Acquiring Staal makes the team much better and Saarela is merely a maybe to make the NHL.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

The reality is 2nd round draft picks on average play less than 50 NHL games. So giving up 2 of them isnt the end of the world. I know our prospect pool is shallow blah blah blah. However I am not happy about Saarela being moved at all. Kid went PPG in the world juniors carrying his team to GOLD. He showed that even for a 3rd round pick he has much better potential than that. Some players are late bloomers. It happens. Saarela's recent play has shown that and than we handed him over.

That is a heart breaker for me.

I like Eric Staal and as a rental to 2nd round picks would have made me very happy. However if we don't end the season with a win than **** is going to get really frustrating.

Also i imagine first time E Staal does anything people will start blaming him for all the teams problems like they did with MSL.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Not all trades are the same.

I hated the St. Louis trade. Gave up way too much.

Gave up much less for Staal and I would rather have Staal than St. Louis.

And, if you're right about Buchenevich, then it was an insanely stupid pick.

Winning the Cup is the goal. Acquiring Staal makes the team much better and Saarela is merely a maybe to make the NHL.

If we win the Stanley Cup, it was a good trade.

In a vacuum, trading 2 2nd's and possibly our second best prospect, if we don't consider guys like McI and Lindberg to be prospects anymore, is not fair value, considering Staal's like a 45 point player and we are basically trading for 2-5 months of him. If this was November, and we traded all that for Eric Staal it'd be a stupid trade, but teams overpay for rentals at this time of year, and I get that. It's common practice now in the NHL. If it leads to you winning the Cup, it's worth it. If it doesn't, its not. Thats the way I see it.

 

[NikC]

The guy has a meansteak, and isn't afraid to use it. No doubt he's been complacent. He brings a temperament to this team that was sorely lacking.

Plus he a pretty good hockey player

 

[chosen]

How? I'm not even arguing that we gave up too much, but how did we win this trade?

Does he fix the swiss cheese defense? Nope

Is he a right handed shot for the PP? Nope

Is he going to push Glass out of the lineup? Nope

He solves literally NONE of the problems this team has.

Every time you add a player that pushes another player down a line, you improve your team.

 

[chosen]

The only thing he does is move Fast down to the 4th line right now, which Nash would have done when he came back anyway.

So, when Nash comes back, a different player moves down. Your top 9 becomes vastly improved.

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Every time you add a player that pushes another player down a line, you improve your team.

Improved? Sure. Has he turned the team from pretenders into legit contenders? Not with Grandpa and the one eyed ginger on the backline, IMO. Not to mention AV's bizarre lineup decisions. I just don't see this trade as giving the Rangers an appreciably better chance at going the distance.

 

[offdacrossbar]

by the time saarela is nhl ready and those 2 2nd are ready, you may not recognize this team.

the time to win is now. waiting for prospects and picks when eric staal is there helps us now how ?

we added one player and suddenly our top 12 forwards look alot better and thats even with rick nash.

chicago is the benchmark for the entire league. if they can do it, why cant we ?

 

[Riche16]

If he is the possession player everyone says he is... won't that, in and of itself help the defense?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

by the time saarela is nhl ready and those 2 2nd are ready, you may not recognize this team.

the time to win is now. waiting for prospects and picks when eric staal is there helps us now how ?

we added one player and suddenly our top 12 forwards look alot better and thats even with rick nash.

chicago is the benchmark for the entire league. if they can do it, why cant we ?

According to Hockey's Future, although Saarela had a hot start in a tier 4 league, he confidence interval for success is between Ryan Kesler and "5. Forth line forward / ...." for which the description just says use your imagination for a similar player.

I think people were trippin' for the sake of trippin'.

 

[Raspewtin]

If he is the possession player everyone says he is... won't that, in and of itself help the defense?

The Rangers' forwards are almost all good possession players as is.

 

[nyenavizhumods*]

Hate the trade very much. Hate the organization very much. Joined just to say that. Thanks.

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Hate the trade very much. Hate the organization very much. Joined just to say that. Thanks.

... and he was never heard from again...

 

[chosen]

Here's what I don't understand.

Yeah, we draft well in later rounds and can overcome a trade or two, but if we give away every single good player we draft and every pick, where do you find NHL players? It doesn't matter how good you draft if you give half of them away.

Maybe we have an alright group of players aged 30-37 and 23-30, but eventually those players get older and the players now aged 18-23 will have to play a big part. If you don't have capable players in your system because they were all traded away for St. Louis, Yandle and Eric Staal, you are pretty much bound to fail.

We find NHL players the same ways other franchises do. You make it sound like the Rangers trade away all of their young talent. How many of them have gone on to shine elsewhere?

The players that the Rangers did bring into the league and remain on the roster are numerous and they range from useful to pretty good, and Lundqvist is great.

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A lot here that started here, and some pretty fine acquisitions. as well.

You want your team to compete for the Cup on a consistent basis. That's what we have.

Some fans are really spoiled.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Hope he shoots the puck. Another pass first skill guy could to be brutal

 

[chosen]

If we win the Stanley Cup, it was a good trade.

In a vacuum, trading 2 2nd's and possibly our second best prospect, if we don't consider guys like McI and Lindberg to be prospects anymore, is not fair value, considering Staal's like a 45 point player and we are basically trading for 2-5 months of him. If this was November, and we traded all that for Eric Staal it'd be a stupid trade, but teams overpay for rentals at this time of year, and I get that. It's common practice now in the NHL. If it leads to you winning the Cup, it's worth it. If it doesn't, its not. Thats the way I see it.

So, if the Rangers lose in the Finals, it's a bad deal?

To me, it's only a bad deal if Saarela is at least an excellent 2nd liner.

 

[chosen]

Improved? Sure. Has he turned the team from pretenders into legit contenders? Not with Grandpa and the one eyed ginger on the backline, IMO. Not to mention AV's bizarre lineup decisions. I just don't see this trade as giving the Rangers an appreciably better chance at going the distance.

They were a contender before the deal, in my opinion.

If your opinion of the team is correct, and it might be, the Rangers should have been sellers. I would never be a seller when my team is arguably the 2nd best team in the conference.

I think fans don't realize that fans of all teams believe their team has holes they must fill or they are doomed.