GWT: EPL - Matchweek 27

[Artorius Horus T]

Considering the players form and injuries, easily. No manager's going to suddenly cure those injuries or form. We need to see him operate under a proper football structure at United. He hasn't so far.

yes i know but still, its 2024, no one in their right mind use a counter attack system anymore
if you lose fine, but do something for crying out loud

man utd was once known from their flashy style of football, scoring lots of
goals, they were feared, now they are,.. laughing stock would be a bit too hars
but yeah, not feared.

 

[cheechoo]

yes i know but still, its 2024, no one in their right mind use a counter attack system anymore
if you lose fine, but do something for crying out loud

man utd was once known from their flashy style of football, scoring lots of
goals, they were feared, now they are,.. laughing stock would be a bit too hars
but yeah, not feared.

I think it's also hard to control a game when your talisman is Bruno Fernandes who epitomizes chaos high risk football.

And then your star winger is someone like Rashford who's extremely selfish. We saw him today constantly spitting the ball up to Walker because he refused to sacrifice his body to draw a fouls and retain possession.

Ten Hag says he wants to play a certain type of football, but his recruitment has been anything but.

Not being able to pry De Jong from Barcelona finished him.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I think Ten Hag is a poor man José Mourinho.

 

[Jussi]

yes i know but still, its 2024, no one in their right mind use a counter attack system anymore
if you lose fine, but do something for crying out loud

man utd was once known from their flashy style of football, scoring lots of
goals, they were feared, now they are,.. laughing stock would be a bit too hars
but yeah, not feared.

Not much other options with the available squad. You're looking at United very superficially, not understanding the status of the squad's health status and players form. Neither are good. United had a healthy squad in January and won 4 straight. And above all, played much better. United without Höjlund, Martinez and Shaw and AWB are a much inferior squad.

 

[hatterson]

Find someone who looks at you line Jussi looks at excuses for ETH/United.

 

[KJS14]

I think Ten Hag is a poor man José Mourinho.

Homeless man's Mourinho maybe... definitely below the poverty line. And I say that as a Mourinho hater.

 

[Jussi]

Find someone who looks at you line Jussi looks at excuses for ETH/United.

I'm a realist and a pessimist (comes naturally from being a Finn). No manager's going to make that squad suddenly play better with the current injury situation and player form. United were always going to struggle against the 115ers.

 

[Venkman]

Onana should do better with the 2nd. Casemiro so slow.

 

[Jussi]

Still a fact, that's hard to fathom: Ole never lost at the Etihad. 3 games, 3 wins.

 

[bluesfan94]

I can't justify him higher than #4 (Bellingham, Rice, and Kane)

He’s not better than Saka either.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

ManU had 26 percent possession and City had 27 shots.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

He’s not better than Saka either.

As I said elsewhere in the thread, Foden v Saka for me is a coin flip. There is at least an argument for Foden at 4, whereas there isn't an argument for him at 1-3.

 

[bluesfan94]

As I said elsewhere in the thread, Foden v Saka for me is a coin flip. There is at least an argument for Foden at 4, whereas there isn't an argument for him at 1-3.

Yeah, I saw that, but I also think he’s pretty clearly behind saka. Saka has out produced Foden and Saka doesn’t have the benefit of defenses keying in on someone else.

 

[bluesfan94]

Considering the players form and injuries, easily. No manager's going to suddenly cure those injuries or form. We need to see him operate under a proper football structure at United. He hasn't so far.

At some point the manager has to be responsible for the play of the players.

 

[S E P H]

So the feeling I am currently feeling now is what it feels like being a Manchester United fan.

 

[Jussi]

At some point the manager has to be responsible for the play of the players.

The same was said about 3 managers ago.

 

[bluesfan94]

The same was said about 3 managers ago.

Yeah you’ve hired a bunch of shit managers and signed shit players. A lot of these players weren’t here three managers a go.

 

[hatterson]

The same was said about 3 managers ago.

Which players would you say have lived up to their potential for more than say 1/4 of a season under ETH?

 

[al secord]

The Rashford sub was just ridiculous. Unless he turned out be injured. You're in a derby match with no number 9 on the bench, and you need a goal.

 

[Jussi]

Which players would you say have lived up to their potential for more than say 1/4 of a season under ETH?

Martinez easily, when healthy.

The Rashford sub was just ridiculous. Unless he turned out be injured. You're in a derby match with no number 9 on the bench, and you need a goal.

According to ten Hag, Rashford and Evans were playing injured.

Yeah you’ve hired a bunch of shit managers and signed shit players. A lot of these players weren’t here three managers a go.

Surprisingly many were.

 

[bluesfan94]

Surprisingly many were.

Lindelof, Martial, Rashford, Dalot, Shaw, and McTominay.

Not that many. And like. Ten Hag hasn't exactly been killing it with the signings.

 

[Jussi]

Lindelof, Martial, Rashford, Dalot, Shaw, and McTominay.

Not that many. And like. Ten Hag hasn't exactly been killing it with the signings.

All more or less starters when healthy.

 

[bluesfan94]

All more or less starters when healthy.

Other than Lindelof, Martial, Dalot, and McTominay, you nailed it.

So you're welcome to say that Rashford and Shaw aren't good enough, if that's your opinion.

 

[Jussi]

Other than Lindelof, Martial, Dalot, and McTominay, you nailed it.

So you're welcome to say that Rashford and Shaw aren't good enough, if that's your opinion.

I'm not saying that. ??? Lindelöf, Dalot/AWB and Martial were very much starters.

 

[bluesfan94]

I'm not saying that. ??? Lindelöf, Dalot/AWB and Martial were very much starters.

Fully healthy, none of Lindelof, Dalot, Martial, or McTominay are locked in starters:

Højlund
Rashford - Bruno - Garnacho/Antony
Eriksen-Casemiro
Shaw - Martinez - Varane - AWB
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Like I said, you're welcome to say the players aren't good enough, given that that seems to be your stance. Although it's only their form that you think isn't good enough.