GWT: EPL - Matchweek 21 (ft. MW7)

[bluesfan94]

As we continue to make up for the queen's death, some big games this week. We have Tottenham, off the back of a NLD derby loss, heading to Manchester to play City, while Arsenal hopes to ride its momentum when hosting Man United, who has a midweek match to contend with. Liverpool hosts Chelsea, in a match that would have been really interesting the last couple years. Tottenham then ends the week with a London derby that could see Fulham leapfrog Tottenham and go into 5th.

Home	Away	Time and Date (CDT)	Venue
Crystal Palace	Manchester United	Wed., Jan. 18, 2:00 PM	Selhurst Park
Manchester City	Tottenham Hotspur	Thurs., Jan. 19, 2:00 PM	Etihad Stadium
Liverpool	Chelsea	Sat., Jan. 21, 6:30 AM	Anfield
Leicester City	Brighton & Hove Albion	Sat., Jan. 21, 9:00 AM	King Power Stadium
Southampton	Aston Villa	Sat., Jan. 21, 9:00 AM	St. Mary's Stadium
West Ham United	Everton	Sat., Jan. 21, 9:00 AM	London Stadium
Bournemouth	Nottingham Forest	Sat., Jan. 21, 9:00 AM	Vitality Stadium
Crystal Palace	Newcastle United	Sat., Jan. 21, 11:30 AM	Selhurst Park
Manchester City	Wolverhampton Wanderers	Sun., Jun. 22, 8:00 AM	Eithad Stadium
Leeds United	Brentford	Sun., Jun. 22, 8:00 AM	Elland Road
Arsenal	Manchester United	Sun., Jun. 22, 10:30 AM	The Emirates
Fulham	Tottenham Hotspur	Mon., Jun. 23, 2:00 PM	Craven Cottage

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[Wee Baby Seamus]

Liverpool are terrible and are going to batter us

 

[Savant]

Chelsea are terrible and are going to batter us

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Chelsea are terrible and are going to batter us

Out of form Salah is gonna make Cucurella wish he was never born

 

[Savant]

Out of form Salah is gonna make Cucurella wish he was never born

Not if no one can get him the ball

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Not if no one can get him the ball

Dw Cucu will hand it to him

 

[Savant]

Dw Cucu will hand it to him

Battle for 7th is on!

Who wants conference league more?!?!

 

[Canes]

Liverpool are terrible and are going to batter us

lol, Liverpool couldn't even batter themselves

 

[Savant]

I’m not setting an alarm

 

[Jussi]

Not if no one can get him the ball

Who are you to doubt boring James Milner?

 

[Savant]

Who are you to doubt boring James Milner?

I wouldn’t be surprised if he started

 

[ItsFineImFine]

I'm curious about the Chelsea v Liverpool matchup to see which central is more useless and gets overrun.

My guess is Chelsea due to Liverpool's attackers being able to actually generate chances and the wingers able to get up the pitch and cross balls in. I think Liverpool are still quite high in terms of chances generated this season, they just can't finish. Ziyech can't run much with the ball but he feels like the only healthy Chelsea player who can deliver a good ball into the box which is a bit embarassing. Then again, maybe Mudryk starts by Saturday.

 

[S E P H]

I actually think there is a decent chance Arsenal drops points on Sunday, even at home. This United squad is scrub on paper, but Ten Hag doing what he did with Ajax and having them punch above their weight class. They are probably the 2nd or 3rd best in form club with Arsenal and Newcastle (could probably add Brighton to that list as well) at the moment. Will be a very tough match.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I actually think there is a decent chance Arsenal drops points on Sunday, even at home. This United squad is scrub on paper, but Ten Hag doing what he did with Ajax and having them punch above their weight class. They are probably the 2nd or 3rd best in form club with Arsenal and Newcastle (could probably add Brighton to that list as well) at the moment. Will be a very tough match.

Scrub on paper? I don’t think there’s much, if any difference on paper between the two lol.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Liverpool-Chelsea
City-Spurs

How much crap can you buy for a billion dollars?

 

[S E P H]

Scrub on paper? I don’t think there’s much, if any difference on paper between the two lol.

I don't want to undermine United's success, but I am not sure I agree.

Currently
Martial > Nkeitah (Jesus destroys Martial though)
Rashford = Martinelli (Rash better finisher, Messi better creator)
Fernandes < Saka
Eriksen < Odingaard (not close)
Fred < Xhaka (not close)
Casemiro =< Partey (close)
Malacia < Zinchenko (close)
Shaw < Gabriel (not sure what Shaw is doing at CB)
Varane =< Saliba (close)
Wan-Bissaka < White (not close)
de Gea < Ramsdale (I don't buy de Gea's current form)

Arsenal wins at every position except striker and that's more due to injuries. I think you lot destroy us in bench depth and options though.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Partey is not a better player than Casemiro.

 

[hatterson]

That list is amazing. I needed a good laugh today. Thanks.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I don't want to undermine United's success, but I am not sure I agree.

Currently
Martial > Nkeitah (Jesus destroys Martial though)
Rashford = Martinelli (Rash better finisher, Messi better creator)
Fernandes < Saka
Eriksen < Odingaard (not close)
Fred < Xhaka (not close)
Casemiro =< Partey (close)
Malacia < Zinchenko (close)
Shaw < Gabriel (not sure what Shaw is doing at CB)
Varane =< Saliba (close)
Wan-Bissaka < White (not close)
de Gea < Ramsdale (I don't buy de Gea's current form)

Arsenal wins at every position except striker and that's more due to injuries. I think you lot destroy us in bench depth and options though.

I’m not even going to justify this list with a legitimate response lmao.

 

[phisherman]

I don't want to undermine United's success, but I am not sure I agree.

Currently
Martial > Nkeitah (Jesus destroys Martial though)
Rashford = Martinelli (Rash better finisher, Messi better creator)
Fernandes < Saka
Eriksen < Odingaard (not close)
Fred < Xhaka (not close)
Casemiro =< Partey (close)
Malacia < Zinchenko (close)
Shaw < Gabriel (not sure what Shaw is doing at CB)
Varane =< Saliba (close)
Wan-Bissaka < White (not close)
de Gea < Ramsdale (I don't buy de Gea's current form)

Arsenal wins at every position except striker and that's more due to injuries. I think you lot destroy us in bench depth and options though.

You left out Midget Martinez and Antony.

Both squads are pretty close except for GK and FB.

 

[Brunkmeister]

I can see why one would think it’s close but that is just people still undervalues Arsenalplayers. If someone like Ödegaard played for City instead he would be much higher regarded by people. People tends to rely on names rather than look at what is being performed right here, right now.

I think United have a lot of players who previously had a high reputation like De Gea, Varane, Sancho, Fernandes, Eriksen etc but neither of them are performing close to that reputation.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I can see why one would think it’s close but that is just people still undervalues Arsenalplayers. If someone like Ödegaard played for City instead he would be much higher regarded by people. People tends to rely on names rather than look at what is being performed right here, right now.

I think United have a lot of players who previously had a high reputation like De Gea, Varane, Sancho, Fernandes, Eriksen etc but neither of them are performing close to that reputation.

Speak for yourself.

 

[KJS14]

I think his list is surprisingly less crazy than you all would like to admit. Not sure why certain players were compared against each other, but the only players I'd even consider adding to Arsenal from United are Bruno and Casemiro. And Partey has definitely been better than Casemiro so far this year. Not close.

 

[S E P H]

I did miss some players like Martinez, but I used the starting XI against Citeh based on that.

Partey is not a better player than Casemiro.

I don't agree, if Casemiro was better than Partey, then Real would have never sold him. I think it's close and Casemiro was definitely way better than Thomas in their prime...like no questions asked about that. But now? I would take Partey even though Casemiro brings a lot of stability to United's midfield that they didn't have since Pogba.

I went back to my list again and not sure what United fans are laughing at. Like what are the biggest mistakes there? I have half of the players classified as "close." Only ones I don't have as close are White and Odingaard, there should be no debates there at all.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

I did miss some players like Martinez, but I used the starting XI against Citeh based on that.


I don't agree, if Casemiro was better than Partey, then Real would have never sold him. I think it's close and Casemiro was definitely way better than Thomas in their prime...like no questions asked about that. But now? I would take Partey even though Casemiro brings a lot of stability to United's midfield that they didn't have since Pogba.

I went back to my list again and not sure what United fans are laughing at. Like what are the biggest mistakes there? I have half of the players classified as "close." Only ones I don't have as close are White and Odingaard, there should be no debates there at all.

Real sold Casemiro because Casemiro asked to leave. Ancelotti wanted to keep him and play him with Tchouameni. The board decided to accept his request to leave.

I guess they felt he was not a better option than any of Tchouameni, Camavinga and Valverde anymore. He is still better than Partey though and I like Partey.