Proposal: Elias Pettersson for Jack Hughes & Taylor Hall

[EdJovanovski]

Who says no

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[TSN Jdog]

Everyone

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

You’re making us look bad bro, stop

 

[Del Preston]

Two 1st overalls for a guy with an oversized helmet.

 

[Todd Parchment]

Vancouver says no. Hall’s contract is gonna be wack and Hughes is unknown at this point and is basically the EP mould but worse.

 

[vancityluongo]

why is the poll asking a different question than the op

 

[MikeK]

Vancouver says no. Easily. Pettersson is an elite C right now. They aren't trading a 20 year old Elite C for an unknown and a player whose likely only 2 years away from decline.

 

[TeddyBare]

Elliot friedman was talking about Pettersson and Makar setting another round of benchmarks for RFA's as soon as this off-season for forward and defense.

Is NJ from a business standpoint even willing to pay a Pettersson salary?

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Both say no but since that wasn’t an option I voted NJ.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Everyone says no, but the value favors the Devils

 

[My3Sons]

Casual fans in the US know who HUGHES is. I’m skeptical that’s true of EP. NJ has a lot invested in HUGHES as a fave of the franchise. EP is better now and may be better over time but NJ sticks with it’s all American boy and whatever scraps Hall returns.

 

[innitfam]

No from Vancouver simply because paying Hall means huge trouble in paying both Hughes (if this trade went down).

 

[JTmillerForA1stLOL]

Benning says yes

 

[Three On Zero]

Benning says yes

Benning adds a 2nd

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

NJ is losing Hall, so the value favours NJ.

Its crazy to say a player like Hall isn't a factor, but when your talking about trading young franchise players having him for the rest of the year really doesn't matter.

If the Canucks had Hall on a reasonable contract extension, then its really tough. I think Pettersson is significantly better than Hughes (& moving forward probably Hall too).

 

[Tical]

I meant to select Jersey

 

[Cogburn]

Gross.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Value is actually pretty good but Vancouver says no as Hall is soon to be paid huge into his mid 30's and Hughes is still just a ticket. Pettersson is a 1C and young getting better. I'd just wait and sign Hall as a UFA if we had cap space which we don't next season. Canucks pass and really Devils should sell Hall alone and keep Hughes.

 

[Grub]

Hughes Brothers and Hall or EP and Quinn Hughes.

Tough one.. Hughes and Hall is good value.

 

[elitepete]

Ridiculously lopsided in New Jersey’s favour.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Probably a trade both teams turn down.

I think it is worth mentioning that 1st overall picks don't always develop into elite players. In a 10 year span, from 2005 - 2014 (decent sample size and far enough back to understand how players panned out), we have had Erik Johnson, RNH, Ekblad (currently but subject to change), and Yakupov. So a 30% chance of getting a solid, but not elite player and 10% chance of drafting a bust. I'm not knocking on Hughes at all - kid looks great from what I've seen - just pointing out basic stats to assess the trade.

I think I'd rather keep Pettersson as he already looks like a ~90 point player in his sophomore season. Once he fills out more and potentially gets better linemates (Podkolzin), I could see him as a 100+ point player - that's exactly what I'm hoping Hughes becomes. Taylor Hall is the real wildcard here as we don't know if he'd re-sign or if Canucks could fit them both under the cap. His age and physical play style aren't very attractive to a team that is still rebuilding.

 

[LeProspector]

No doubt in my mind this favours Vancouver. People really be playing off Hall as a terrible player.

 

[markog]

NJ is losing Hall, so the value favours NJ.

Its crazy to say a player like Hall isn't a factor, but when your talking about trading young franchise players having him for the rest of the year really doesn't matter.

If the Canucks had Hall on a reasonable contract extension, then its really tough. I think Pettersson is significantly better than Hughes (& moving forward probably Hall too).

No it doesn't, they will get something for him (player(s), draft pick(s)), you're saying like they won't trade him.

 

[bert]

You just dont trade players like Petterson when they are 20 years old. Plus Halls contract and his injury history are terrifying to me. I dont think Jack Hughes ever gets to Pettersons level.

 

[Dicdonya]

No doubt in my mind this favours Vancouver. People really be playing off Hall as a terrible player.

No one is writing Hall off. The issue is can or would Hall re-sign in Vancouver?

Are you really going to trade away your young elite/franchise center for half a season of Hall, in a year where Van is not a cup favorite, go all in type of team? Maybe you would, but that seems a bit risky don't you think?

Its why the debate is mainly focused on Hughes vs Pettersson, because IF Hall leaves, and that seems likely, that's who Van would be left with, and if you are someone that does not think Hughes will reach the same level as Pettersson, than there is no reason to do this trade.