Seravalli: Elias Pettersson Extension: Progress being made?

[ole ole]

I think that you have some wishful thinking.

If I am wrong I am wrong but I think he is getting much more.

Lets hope your right.

 

[HockeyVirus]

That's not unreasonable given the contract covers age 25 to 33 when its done.
Pastrnak is at $11.25 mill aav from age 27 to 35. I'd bet that ages 25, 26 for Petey are better offensively than Pasta at 33, 34, thus a higher AAV does seem logical.

I am thinking he will get 12.8 which I view as an overpayment in the Marner tier. An elite player and you don't mind overpaying a bit to keep them but also it's not a great contract

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

If I was the Vancouver GM I'd offer either 4x$16 or 8x$10.

 

[StreetHawk]

I am thinking he will get 12.8 which I view as an overpayment in the Marner tier. An elite player and you don't mind overpaying a bit to keep them but also it's not a great contract

Have to take care of your top guys first, then figure out the rest. Vs how the Canucks operated under Benning and give big money to the bottom first.

It costs what it costs. I mean, these are going to be premium years from Petey if its the max term from 25 to 33. So, have no issues with it being high. Petey knows the expectations that come with a big number, especially in a hockey market. This is the price you pay to get 8 more years at a premium level.

 

[Luck 6]

They are going to massively overpay based on 15 games, the team will regress to the mean and people will lose their minds like what happened with JT Miller

I am thinking he will get 12.8 which I view as an overpayment in the Marner tier. An elite player and you don't mind overpaying a bit to keep them but also it's not a great contract

Firstly, what's with the JT Miller reference? That contract is currently a discount... The guy has been top-10 in scoring league wide since joining the Canucks, and we signed him for 8mil per year.

I don't think Marner's contract would have seemed as bad if the salary cap kept climbing, but because it didn't because it was signed at the worst possible time, it has an ugly stigma around it. But yes, signing Pettersson for 11.71mil would actually be the same salary cap percentage as Marner.

 

[theguardianII]

I said these 15 games will get him overpaid on this deal

True but no deal yet, but well towards the 100 points with only 17% of the season played. If he keeps on this pace he get 137 points

 

[oceanchild]

Going to start with 12

Like JT Miller’s contract, it will be a steal

 

[Fatass]

11.5 x 5
12.5 x 7/8

 

[Aqualung]

He has no interest in winning .He just wants to get paid.

How do you know this?

 

[Canucks LB]

They are going to massively overpay based on 15 games, the team will regress to the mean and people will lose their minds like what happened with JT Miller

JT Miller has been f***ing ridiculous that is worth like 11 million with the way he’s playing

And Ep40 put over 100 points last year.

My goodness

 

[Tob]

$13.15MX7

 

[Canucks LB]

$13.15MX7

I would be completely fine with 13 x 7

 

[Tob]

I would be completely fine with 13 x 7

Ya, I don't think management wants Matthews 4 year kinda thing. If it gets done soon, I don't think it'll be medium term big money.

 

[StickShift]

Matthews set the trend. I think you are going to see four-year contracts from most all-stars coming up for renewal. The players want to time their next contract to when they are in their primes and when the cap is significantly higher.

 

[Towers]

Yeah lets save the cash for the big 100 point player we drafted! Oh wait.

Give Petey his bag and lets try and win it with him now.

 

[Warh1ppy]

If he is smart and wants to win. It's $11 million x 8 years

If he is smart and wants to get paid. It is $13 million x 5 years

I figure it's $11.5 million between 6-8 years. Leaving $ in the table to ensure they can retain Hughes and Demko but also offer Nylander $ when he wants to leave that front line heavy tire fire of Edmonton East

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Like JT Miller’s contract, it will be a steal

a steal*

* = (for now)

when saying a contract is a steal that usually means, to me anyway, its below market value for the entirety

so will he be worth 8m when hes 35? eh, probably not.. however it could be due to the cap rising!

well see how things so but for right now Miller has been terrific and is easily worth 8 (which, when Horvat makes 8.5, its an easy choice)

 

[dellzor]

Dhali said they're looking at high 11s or @ 12

 

[nergish]

Yeah lets save the cash for the big 100 point player we drafted! Oh wait.

Give Petey his bag and lets try and win it with him now.

Amen. The guy is a rockstar for our city, give him the keys.

Comparable only to Bure or Luongo for this market.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

This is going to be a horrendus contract I can feel it.

Having seen some of your previous takes I'm actually quite relieved to see you say this.

 

[David71]

4yrs 13.25 or 8 yrs take your pick

 

[oceanchild]

a steal*

* = (for now)

when saying a contract is a steal that usually means, to me anyway, its below market value for the entirety

so will he be worth 8m when hes 35? eh, probably not.. however it could be due to the cap rising!

well see how things so but for right now Miller has been terrific and is easily worth 8 (which, when Horvat makes 8.5, its an easy choice)

It’s worth more than $8m now, that is clear, probably close to $10m in terms of what he has produced so far (it’s early), yes the term might not age at the end, but if it’s averaged out I bet it ends up being a great deal. The cap will go up, and his contract will get closer to being in line with what it should be. I’m hoping it’s only the last year that is unfortunate, but it might be 2.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

It’s worth more than $8m now, that is clear, probably close to $10m in terms of what he has produced so far (it’s early), yes the term might not age at the end, but if it’s averaged out I bet it ends up being a great deal. The cap will go up, and he will get closer to being in line it hat he should be. I’m hoping it’s only the last year that is unfortunate, but it might be 2.

could creep up a bit earlier than expected due to how physical Miller can be

id guess year 5 you get a noticeable decline with years 6+7 being a net negative; though at that point a retained Miller at 4m (or even 2m with a third team involved) could see value

 

[42]

8x9M if he really wants to win

This deal has as much chance of happening as me winning the Art Ross.

 

[42]

$13.15MX7

Bingo. He will be the league's highest paid player when he signs his new contract.