Player Discussion Elias Pettersson, Calder Trophy winner

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Different in a lot of ways:

It's so f*****g dirty, I can't believe it. ;-) Perhaps one of the top 10 cheap shots in the history of hockey?

Ulf Samuelsson looking like a saint in comparison.

 

[Hit the post]

It's so f*****g dirty, I can't believe it. ;-) Perhaps one of the top 10 cheap shots in the history of hockey?

Ulf Samuelsson looking like a saint in comparison.

I’m not even sure he (Hextall) got suspended for the blatant slash. Different world then.

 

[PhilMick]

It's so f*****g dirty, I can't believe it. ;-) Perhaps one of the top 10 cheap shots in the history of hockey?

Ulf Samuelsson looking like a saint in comparison.

I love how you can see the thought process in action: "Hey! That guy just poked me...f*** this other guy".

 

[M2Beezy]

Do you mean "you" as "people in general", or "you" as in me personally? I don't like how the English language doesn't have a pronoun for a general person.

Best language, GLOBAL language chimp

 

[M2Beezy]

just three points away from passing both rookie sedins combined

And people were doubting if hed be better than Henrick

 

[Bougieman]

Perhaps we should have foreseen how much he'd slow down towards the end of the year, but after that amazing first few weeks I didn't expect him to only get 2 goals in 22 games, and get no more than 3 shots on net in any one of those 22 games, and more often than not having 0, 1, or 2 shots on net per game. The kid just doesn't have the stamina at this point... lets hope that comes with time and maybe once he puts a few more pounds on his little noodley body.

I mean, 2 goals? That was what he was doing pretty often in ONE game early on, not 22 games.

 

[crobro]

4canucks on that Swedish watch list

 

[vanuck]

Anyone else think he's been lacking a little bit of strength on his legs as of late? Possibly the knee still not fully recovered?

 

[Phil McKraken]

Perhaps we should have foreseen how much he'd slow down towards the end of the year, but after that amazing first few weeks I didn't expect him to only get 2 goals in 22 games, and get no more than 3 shots on net in any one of those 22 games, and more often than not having 0, 1, or 2 shots on net per game. The kid just doesn't have the stamina at this point... lets hope that comes with time and maybe once he puts a few more pounds on his little noodley body.

I mean, 2 goals? That was what he was doing pretty often in ONE game early on, not 22 games.

All that's pretty normal rookie stuff though, they usually cool off from fatigue during the last third. Another off-season of training and he'll maintain well next year.

 

[VanJack]

Everybody automatically assumes that Pettersson will knock it out of the park next year, and be even better. But what if he isn't? Is he the guy who tore it up in the first few months, or the kid locked in a goal-less drought now stretching to 18 games? It's always a sobering reminder that improvement for young players isn't a linear exercise.

It might take three or four seasons before Pettersson is a legitimate ppg player in the regular season. It took the Sedins close to five years to hit their breakthrough campaigns.

Pettersson is a sublime talent.....but carrying this sorry franchise on his back next season?.....might or might not happen .But sadly, in order for the Canucks to actually improve, it has to happen.

 

[M2Beezy]

Anyone else think he's been lacking a little bit of strength on his legs as of late? Possibly the knee still not fully recovered?

Yeah maybe

 

[Star Ocean]

Pettersson has lost the calder right? No chance at all anymore?

What a disappointment he is.

 

[Zombotron]

lol wtf

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Looked great against LA
Could have had 3 pts
Though his shooting % is dropping as expected

 

[Star Ocean]

lol wtf

Hughes is the shiny new toy. Pettersson is yesterdays news.

Nah but seriously i didnt expect him to suck in his last 30 games.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Hughes is the shiny new toy. Pettersson is yesterdays news.

Nah but seriously i didnt expect him to suck in his last 30 games.

Lol what

 

[Star Ocean]

Lol what

Just saying the same thing as everyone else in here. Everybody is disappointed

 

[Chimpradamus]

Just saying the same thing as everyone else in here. Everybody is disappointed

It's pretty bold to maintain that you're the spokesperson for "everybody". It's suspected his knee hasn't healed fully yet (he doesn't look as sharp and skates as well as before the knee injury), he's fatigued (he's not used to play this many games in a season) and he's far from the only one looking fatigued. Scoring slumps also happen, combined with being the focus of the opposition.

It's pretty clear he's in a slump. There has recently been some good chances for Pettersson to shoot, but he passes instead.

How the heck can you be disappointed with a player that is guaranteed to be one of the nominees for the Calder? Sure, he hasn't maintained his goalscoring, but his assists have been dropping in. All in all a very good season.

 

[nuxnuxnux]

Can’t wait to see what an off season of training and processing the nhl will do for his game next year, add in Hughes who can actually move the puck from the back end and next season is gonna be awesome to watch even if they suck still.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

The grind of a long season, being keyed in on as a top player and suffering two fairly significant injuries has definitely slowed him down. You can tell he isn’t trying to be as fancy anymore and is simplifying his game, but he’s honestly at his best when he’s being creative and trying new things.

He should still get close to or reach 70 points, which is a massive accomplishment and better than most thought coming into the season. I don’t think Dahlin has done quite enough to get the Calder, but we’lol see. It’s closer than it was.

 

[Chimpradamus]

The grind of a long season, being keyed in on as a top player and suffering two fairly significant injuries has definitely slowed him down. You can tell he isn’t trying to be as fancy anymore and is simplifying his game, but he’s honestly at his best when he’s being creative and trying new things.

He should still get close to or reach 70 points, which is a massive accomplishment and better than most thought coming into the season. I don’t think Dahlin has done quite enough to get the Calder, but we’lol see. It’s closer than it was.

I'm hoping Pettersson can win the Calder, but I would be fine with Dahlin winning it as well. What Pettersson has done this season is special, but so is Dahlin's. If Pettersson hadn't gone through a cold streak where he just has been unable to score goals, it wouldn't be close, but now it is.

 

[Iron Mike Sharpe]

Franchise rookie record watch: It's a new record!
Player	GP	G	A	P	Age
Elias Pettersson	66	27	38	65	20
Pavel Bure	65	34	26	60	21
Ivan Hlinka	72	23	37	60	31

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Swedish rookie point watch
Player	GP	G	A	P	Age
Kent Nilsson	80	40	53	93	23
Nicklas Backström	82	14	55	69	20
Elias Pettersson	66	27	38	65	20
Henrik and Daniel Sedin (combined)	82	29	34	63	20
Tomas Sandström	74	29	30	59	20
Thomas Gradin	76	20	31	51	22

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Nilsson was never considered a rookie in the NHL, he had two full seasons in the WHA prior to this.

 

[tantalum]

I don't think anyone can be disappointed with the season he has had. He was bound to hit a wall. With a lack of offensive threats on the roster he was also bound to be focused on by the opposition. He's going to finish at a point per game pace (or nearly)...I doubt more than a few people predicted that type of production.

 

[Hit the post]

Nilsson was never considered a rookie in the NHL, he had two full seasons in the WHA prior to this.

Who would you consider as Canada’s greatest athlete today Mr Sharpe?

 

[Phil McKraken]

Everybody automatically assumes that Pettersson will knock it out of the park next year, and be even better. But what if he isn't? Is he the guy who tore it up in the first few months, or the kid locked in a goal-less drought now stretching to 18 games?

In terms of goal scoring he's probably somewhere in between. He shot around 30% in the beginning but has shot at 4.6% in his last 23 games, and neither is sustainable obviously. It's more common for young players (<25) to improve than not though, so I don't see why he shouldn't be expected to do that next year, especially with such obvious room for improvement in his physique.

Same thing applies to Boeser, and Hughes might be able to give the team anoher dimension already next year.