Speculation: Ekholm to PHI

[ArchAngel55]

how would that even work with expansion? Don't Myers, Provorov and Sanheim all need protecting?

I would work a deal with Seattle to not take someone like Vegas did with teams.

 

[Critical13]

I would work a deal with Seattle to not take someone like Vegas did with teams.

That adds another 1st, maybe more to the cost of acquiring the player.

Not saying that's make or break but when I thought about it that way, I felt like it will be harder to make trades this year.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Muzzin trade doesn't look good for LA in hindsight. Muzzin has been a top pair D, was cost controlled for a year and a half, and it took 2 prospects and a 1st. Ekholm might not be as good, but he's reasonably close. I'd shoot higher.

No way is Ekholm going to cost that. Muzzin had term left which was the big appeal. Ekholm is a 2nd pair D and could be a rental for half a condensed season before Seattle snatches him. Nashville would need to throw in Granlund for that to make sense.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

No way is Ekholm going to cost that. Muzzin had term left which was the big appeal. Ekholm is a 2nd pair D and could be a rental for half a condensed season before Seattle snatches him. Nashville would need to throw in Granlund for that to make sense.

Ekholm has a year and a half left, which is the same term Muzzin had. Ekholm plays on the second pair but only due to us having Josi and us not pairing left-handed d-men together, he's definitely top-pairing capable. The Muzzin package is not an unreasonable ask.

 

[DRAGO 18]

Teams scout each other all the just seems like a wild guess to me

 

[BigFatCat999]

That adds another 1st, maybe more to the cost of acquiring the player.

Not saying that's make or break but when I thought about it that way, I felt like it will be harder to make trades this year.

Not to mention retention of salary and the 2021 draft seems more like a mystery than ever.

 

[Flyer lurker]

how would that even work with expansion? Don't Myers, Provorov and Sanheim all need protecting?

This is the 64000 question. If you go 4x4 then one of Patrick or Lindblom is gone. Or you trade Sanheim to Kings before the ED as they are looking for young lhd and can trade Flyers back prospects Flyters don't have to protect.

 

[Prongo]

This is the 64000 question. If you go 4x4 then one of Patrick or Lindblom is gone. Or you trade Sanheim to Kings before the ED as they are looking for young lhd and can trade Flyers back prospects Flyters don't have to protect.

You trade Myers before you trade Sanheim. Just because Myers is a righty doesn’t make him more valuable. Keep the better of the defenseman.

 

[Blaine8797]

You trade Myers before you trade Sanheim. Just because Myers is a righty doesn’t make him more valuable. Keep the better of the defenseman.

So then you keep myers if you keep the better dman

 

[ted2019]

Flyers are going to lose a good player in the expansion draft regardless...its inevitable. Ghost, JVR, and Laughton are all likely to be exposed too...any of them would be big losses too.

Gostisbehere would NOT be a big loss.

 

[Flyer lurker]

You trade Myers before you trade Sanheim. Just because Myers is a righty doesn’t make him more valuable. Keep the better of the defenseman.

Keeping 3 lefties and trading/exposing your only rhd and btw at only 2.55m cap I question that. I would lose Patrick or Lindblom over losing/trading Myers. There is no great end solution if you trade for Ekholm. For what I suspect it would cost (for bleeps and giggles lets say 2021 1 and Allison) I think the wiser call is to sit out.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Ekholm has a year and a half left, which is the same term Muzzin had. Ekholm plays on the second pair but only due to us having Josi and us not pairing left-handed d-men together, he's definitely top-pairing capable. The Muzzin package is not an unreasonable ask.

A 1 and at least one legit top 5 prospect in someone organization is a very reasonable ask. So if Predators ask from the Flyers 2021 1, Allison(5th-6th best prospect power forward)and Ersson (Flyers best G prospect) I don't think your ask is crazy. I think its crazy for Flyers to give that right before an expansion draft and lose more assets. Without trades you guarantee losing Lindblom or Patrick in ED.

People confuse what is right asking price and should my team do this.

 

[BernieParent]

Foerster (last year's 1st round pick), Hogberg (Dman from the SHL currently playing well in the AHL), 2nd 2021, 2nd 2022?

 

[Limeyjim]

If there are scouts looking at Flyers prospects allow me to say that I think Zayde Wisdom is off limits. I can't wait to see that kid with the big team!

 

[The Madrigal]

Little old thing called the salary cap.

They could have made it work. They flushed 3 million in cap dollars down the toilet on Gustafsson.

 

[The Madrigal]

Foerster (last year's 1st round pick), Hogberg (Dman from the SHL currently playing well in the AHL), 2nd 2021, 2nd 2022?

Too much. The Muzzin deal should about what Nashville gets. First in 2021, Hogberg, and another Flyers prospect not in their top five is comparable.

 

[The Madrigal]

Muzzin trade doesn't look good for LA in hindsight. Muzzin has been a top pair D, was cost controlled for a year and a half, and it took 2 prospects and a 1st. Ekholm might not be as good, but he's reasonably close. I'd shoot higher.

On no planet should Ekholm return more than Muzzin. The same, maybe, not more though. Also, I think LA did just fine in that deal.

 

[Danko]

To expand on this The author himself was on Twitter today andbawicslly said that the article clearly indicates he is just reporting it as strange for Nashville to be there scouting not that anything is imminent or that he has inside information.

 

[tictactoe]

Muzzin trade doesn't look good for LA in hindsight. Muzzin has been a top pair D, was cost controlled for a year and a half, and it took 2 prospects and a 1st. Ekholm might not be as good, but he's reasonably close. I'd shoot higher.

posts like this... ha ha

 

[Flyer lurker]

Muzzin trade doesn't look good for LA in hindsight. Muzzin has been a top pair D, was cost controlled for a year and a half, and it took 2 prospects and a 1st. Ekholm might not be as good, but he's reasonably close. I'd shoot higher.

When you consider the rental D market looks to absolutely SUX, I would surely ask for the moon. Is it possible Buffalo puts Risto on the market? Sure but I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. Montour? Yawn. Gudbranson? Vanilla no 6 d guy. It only take one village idiot to overpay in a trade. So if I am Poile I am asking.
Pens Poulin and 1
Flyers 1 Frost
Habs Guhle and 1 for Ekholm and 2.

I am not saying these three teams should makes these trades. They shouldn't. I am saying when the d available are this brutal you can aim high.

 

[BigFatCat999]

Teams are offering #1's....but in this year?

 

[Flyer lurker]

Teams are offering #1's....but in this year?

ESPECIALLY in this year. You don't trade unprotected 1 in 2022 with Power out there. Even NHL gm's aren't that desperate and stupid.

Now if NASH do I severely devalue this this 1? hmmmm.

 

[sxvnert]

Muzzin has been a top pair D

Hes a #3 in to. Rielly-Brodie are considered the top pairing.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Hes a #3 in to. Rielly-Brodie are considered the top pairing.

I watch the Leafs every game. He's the best D on the team.

 

[Tripod]

Gostisbehere would NOT be a big loss.

Ghost has been better than Provy and Myers this year.