Eichel trade (mod edit: as in, why do people want one?)
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OkimLom
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You make a thread called "Eichel trade" and then say the complete opposite in your post.
In journalism, this would be called clickbait.
In journalism, this would be called clickbait.
BananaSquad
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McPhatty00
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McPhatty00
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I have a buddy on Twitter who has been pushing for this for a few months His opinion is that Jack is no more than Craig Janney. I don't get it.
Sabre Dance
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I've thought about it. Hard to make a trade that makes sense. Only possibility is a trade with a struggling team like us where we just exchange #1 centers hoping change brings winning.
JayfromNB1219
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I can think of a few bubble teams that would probably take you up on Eichel
see:
Carolina (Pesce, Faulk, Ferland)
Minnesota (Staal,Ericksson ek, Suter, Parise)
Columbus (Snicker) (not even gonna bother lol)
Montreal (Drouin, Domi)
Colorado (Barrie maybe?)
Dallas (Radulov, Benn, Seguin)
Zman5778
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I'm probably going to take some heat for this -- but I think a lot of it stems from him not being a "Buffalo Boy". He's not the salt-of-the-earth, hard-working, keep-your-head-down guy. He whines and sulks a bit on the ice (and a bit off the ice). He doesn't always appear to be working hard on the ice. He doesn't appear as though he's always "trying". He's not a "leader". He's a high-talent, high-priced athlete who hasn't single-handedly won games. That type just does NOT go over well in Buffalo. It just doesn't. He's not going to be given any slack for being 22. Or that the teams around him have largely sucked. Or that he battled 2 high ankle sprains in 2 years. He hasn't won, hasn't made the playoffs and doesn't have that "Buffalo attitude". Therefore, he is a/the problem and must go.
Also consider -- who was the last Sabre to be universally adored by Buffalo, as a community? Drury? Briere? Hasek? LaFontaine? Perrault? Has it ever truly happened, the way Buffalo adored Jim Kelly or Thurman Thomas or OJ Simpson (pre-killings) or Jack Kemp?
Do I agree with the above? Heck no. Absolutely not. Eichel is a piece you lock onto long-term, wait for him to mature and develop and build around him. You can see that starting to happen here (thanks, lottery for Dahlin).
I think a lot of the "trade Eichel" noise around is more attitude-based than it as anything else.
Gabrielor
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I complain a lot about Jack, especially recently.
I have very high expectations for Jack, that will get higher.
I wouldn’t trade Jack for anything rationally. You give me McDavid, or possibly your teams 3-4 best young pieces, sure. Otherwise, no chance at all.
He’s frustrating, but he’s still a superstar.
I have very high expectations for Jack, that will get higher.
I wouldn’t trade Jack for anything rationally. You give me McDavid, or possibly your teams 3-4 best young pieces, sure. Otherwise, no chance at all.
He’s frustrating, but he’s still a superstar.
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Sabres went 8 years without a franchise center once the co caps left. Not trying to search again. Eichel is here his entire prime. With how much salary is going up having a 90 point center at 10 mil is great value.
McPhatty00
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If you stack him against Mathews, they're having nearly identical seasons. Jack's overall supporting cast is rough. It's coming. I get that this team has had a terrible decade and Terry isn't a great owner, but we need patience
stokes84
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People wanted him to be the savior. He’s not a savior. He’s just a very good player on a very bad team.
Jack doesn't go full-bore like the goat-goat-goats do, but he's not a lazy hockey player. His skating posture, however, straight-back with all power generation from his edges, especially while conserving energy for timely bursts, LOOKS incredibly lazy. This gets tolerated when we win hockey games, but if we lose, even if Jack's production gets better (see the ~15 games after the streak compared to the streak) it becomes the focal point of people's ire.
I wish Jack played with his hair on fire the way McDavid does, but his intensity level is no different from the greats who are just fine effort-wise. It's understandable to wish he was that much better.
And sometimes, yes, he needs to go harder, and isn't even "just fine." This is the case for all players, and only leads to calls to trade Jack because he's the captain of the titanic post-iceberg.
Maybe when we trade Jack and Sam, and have impeccable effort and locker room dynamics, we can accomplish our goal of looking like the tank teams we are desperately trying, and failing, to distance ourselves from.
I wish Jack played with his hair on fire the way McDavid does, but his intensity level is no different from the greats who are just fine effort-wise. It's understandable to wish he was that much better.
And sometimes, yes, he needs to go harder, and isn't even "just fine." This is the case for all players, and only leads to calls to trade Jack because he's the captain of the titanic post-iceberg.
Maybe when we trade Jack and Sam, and have impeccable effort and locker room dynamics, we can accomplish our goal of looking like the tank teams we are desperately trying, and failing, to distance ourselves from.
McPhatty00
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McDavid can't save the Oilers. It's damn near impossible for one guy to win with nothing else.
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He might benefit from a coach with some experience handling superstars and one that might carry a proverbial whip.
I'm thinking specifically of Joel Quenville.
Jack needs to be held accountable and the occasional swift kick in the rear.
I'm thinking specifically of Joel Quenville.
Jack needs to be held accountable and the occasional swift kick in the rear.
McPhatty00
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And maybe we can get the best effort coach EVER back. I know Ted Nolan can do it! <sarcasm>
McPhatty00
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Agreed, I just mean to go along with your idea that one great player can't save a trash team, because TWO of them can't come close to it.
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We're trading Eichel to Carolina for Jordan Staal, Jordan Martinook, Saku Maenalanen, Scott Darling and a lottery protected first round pick in 2028. It will be known as the Oh Eichel trade.
No, no, no, no. You just do not trade Eichel.
But he is not a messiah and he's not beyond legitimate criticism.
Yeah, legitimate needs to be defined for some.
Bottom line. He is the face of the Sabres now and into the future. Now surround him with some skill and talent.
End of story.
But he is not a messiah and he's not beyond legitimate criticism.
Yeah, legitimate needs to be defined for some.
Bottom line. He is the face of the Sabres now and into the future. Now surround him with some skill and talent.
End of story.
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