I think it’s one of those things where Matthews gets so much attention that a lot of leaf fans know that won’t go away so they give most of theres to marner then both become solid. That theory may be slightly true but it doesent mean it’s not deserved. I watch how manner skates the puck in and drives the offense, he’s consistently the guy who goes out there and proves people wrong, I wish he was on buffalo.
Eichel,Reinhart,Dahlin Vs Matthews,Marner,Rielly
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I think it’s one of those things where Matthews gets so much attention that a lot of leaf fans know that won’t go away so they give most of theres to marner then both become solid. That theory may be slightly true but it doesent mean it’s not deserved. I watch how manner skates the puck in and drives the offense, he’s consistently the guy who goes out there and proves people wrong, I wish he was on buffalo.
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Rielly is likely the Norris favorite right now, tough award to win. Dahlin has a lot to prove before we hand him the accomplishment of even being the Norris favorite.
Matthews > Eichel
Marner >> Reinhart
Rielly = Dahlin
Halla
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but Rielly is looking at 90+pts this year so Dahlin has to become a Norris candidate just to overtake Morgan....
the gap between mitch and reinhart will always be bigger than the dmen imho
I mean Marner could very well be a Patrick Kane level player. Have to go with the Leafs for that reason.
Holymakinaw
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LMAO. Whoa there, Pardner. Slow down.
Dahlin is NOT better than Norris trophy front-runner Morgan Reilly. Not even close right now. He might be one day, but don't be ridiculous. RIGHT NOW, Rielly is waaaaay better AINEC.
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Atomos2
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If 44 points in 40 games as a #1 d of a top team and Norris contender makes you overrated, what does that make Dahlin?
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If anyone right now wouldn’t prefer Dahlin to protect a one goal lead late in the 3rd, it makes him underrated.
Matthews is not playing better then Eichel right now.
Last year their production was the same counting Matthews whole season (playoffs), this year their production is the exact same only eichels done it over a longer period which is harder to do and in 16-17 Eichel averaged 0.10 higher PPG, Matthews and Eichel are even if anything there is absolutely nothing to suggest Matthews is clearly better then Eichel as of right now. 36 in 26 isn’t better then 49
In 39, it’s technically 49 in 40 because he played but if you want to count 2 shifts of the regular 20-25 shifts as a full game be my guest. Even if we do count his two shifts as a game and he’s played 40 1.31>1.30 isnt “better”, Eichel gets more pp time and ice time but Matthews gets to be on a better team that scores a ton more, and a more stacked pp with more weapons. Plus Eichel doesent even get many PP points, he is top 5 in even strength point production and on top or near the top of numerous offensive categories before going down a few games back. Long story short, Matthews is by no means a step ahead at the moment they are even if anything.
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No one was saying Reinhart was that or even close to marner. I even said he wasn’t in his tier all I said was since there were wre no double arrows on the list until then and since Reinhart has 76 in last 79 that’s not two shoe arrows below marner.
Reinhart is an interesting player, dating back to his days with team Canada or kootenay of the whl where I watched him live a lot as a junior, he never stands out but he does so many little things right and he has a tremendous hockey iq. He is definitely he least talented player of the six but he’s closing the gap that it isn’t far off.
He’s better then dahlin right now by a little but probably won’t be for long. Then it’s Reilly and of course marner then Eichel and Matthews at the top.
When they are all in their prime
Assuming they reach their potential it will be Matthews Eichel and dahlin on one tie marner and then Reilly and Reinhart in the one before or Reilly will be in the middle with marner.
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Whoa there, Pardner. You just slammed it in reverse and floored it to 100 in the other direction.
Didn't heed your own advice.
Holymakinaw
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LOL. Are you suggesting that Morgan Reilly.......a Defenceman who is on pace for 25 goals and 90+ points........is NOT way better than Dahlin at this point in time?
koyvoo
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On the powerplsy for sure. Defending a late lead Dahlin is definitely already better.
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Matthews > Eichel
Marner > Reinhart
Reilly < Dahlin
The question asks who do you take going forward. I am not convinced Rielly's production isn't a product of the incredible offense the leafs have (he is clearly a part of that offense, but I find it hard to believe he would be putting up 44 points on the Sabres and that Dahlin would only have 20 on the Leafs). Add in the huge age gap between Dahlin and Rielly and I take Dahlin going forward.
Take Matthews over Eichel because he is better defensively while being basically equal offensively and Marner over Reinhart right now is obviously no contest. Leafs trio wins.
Marner > Reinhart
Reilly < Dahlin
The question asks who do you take going forward. I am not convinced Rielly's production isn't a product of the incredible offense the leafs have (he is clearly a part of that offense, but I find it hard to believe he would be putting up 44 points on the Sabres and that Dahlin would only have 20 on the Leafs). Add in the huge age gap between Dahlin and Rielly and I take Dahlin going forward.
Take Matthews over Eichel because he is better defensively while being basically equal offensively and Marner over Reinhart right now is obviously no contest. Leafs trio wins.
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Holymakinaw
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No Rielly is 100% better everywhere else, too. He's a very complete D-Man and is at the top of his game.
Dahlin might surpass him one day soon, but to suggest it already is LAUGHABLE.
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