Proposal: EDM / TOR

[rent free]

dont give if you cant take princess

He wasn't the one giving.

 

[thadd]

Would rather keep Khaira. More versatile (play all 3 forward positions), can drop the gloves, and decent offensive ability for a bottom 6er.

You forgot that he's big and skates well.

 

[Dustin]

yeah when he plays though he puts up.
8g/19pts in 41 games the last 3 years despite little ice time

I'd rather the leafs give him a regular spot and watch his value sky rocket when he starts to put up next to the talent they have. He is fighting Ennis for a spot now but injuries could change things

I understand that. I doubt any GM is going is going to assess at a half a point player though. They are going see 25 and less than 82 games.

I believe that if Leivo even got 3rd line minutes he would produce. Any team that can play him on a 3rd line can get Leivo cheap I think. I don't think Babcock and the Leafs have any faith in him at all. It's not Corrado type levels but I think he's been a mismanaged asset.

*Edit. Sorry on a phone....

 

[Canada4Gold]

What about the three years and 28 games between 2013-2016 when the Leafs were garbage and there was plenty of opportunity to steal a spot? There have been countless players who have produced at the AHL level and have been able to put up reasonable numbers in the NHL but they don't do enough elsewhere to stick.

I agree that he'd be worth giving a shot, but this is a waiver pickup.. not a 3rd round pick and definitely not a roster player move.

You mean when he was a 1st-3rd year pro and when he was injuried?(parts of year 2 and 3).

I agree that it’s discouraging that he didn’t play more in 2016, but you can’t exactly expect someone to come out of junior and right to the NHL or back from half injured 20-21 age AHL years and do that. The first year I’d be critical of Leivo for not earning an NHL job on a crappy Leafs team was 15-16 and he was actually quite good in his very small sample that year. IIRC he was an AHL all star and should have been called up sooner to determine what he was before he lost his waiver exemption that offseason

 

[HugginThePost]

As a Flames fan, the Oilers would be nuts to do this. Khaira just keeps getting better and better. Will he get a whole lot better, probably not, but he doesn't have to. The guy is the perfect bottom 6'er. I'd love him on my team.

Now Kassian.....yeah, that's a trade you make. Not because Khaira is better, but because Kassian cost's too much for what he is bringing to the table.

 

[McYoungGuns]

what an ignorant comment

Leivo has 8g/19pts over 41 games the last 3 seasons. thats a 16g/38pt full season pace. Guess how many oilers had that many goals OR points?

3

tells you something about that team. fans like you are the reason i enjoy seeing the oilers continue to be the laughingstock of the league, although montreal is giving them a run

ya we suck, thats good and all .... u realize leafs haven't won a single playoff series in the cap era ? Careful throwing rocks in ur glass house friend

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Khaira at the very least is a really solid bottom 6 forward. Leivo is an AHL/NHL tweener.

Just your typical Leafs proposal involving their garbage for something decent.

Our garbage? Khaira can barely crack a forward group that's among the worst in the league. Hes done nothing at the NHL level. I love the hypocrisy here though; my guy is all sunshine and rainbows and is at least a third or fourth liner while the other guy is garbage. Leivo is not a tweener, he's an NHL quality forward who, unfortunately for him, got stuck in a numbers game on one of the deeper forward groups in the league. Where is he supposed to play, on the fourth line? That's not his style. He's an offensive winger who needs the minutes. Some GM is gonna get a 20/20 winger at a bargain when he's traded. There's a reason the Leafs haven't simply given him away.

 

[Skolman]

Oilers decline

 

[Spirit of 67]

Khaira for Leivo

Edmonton gets a forward who has a great shot and can potentially fit in the top 6 and play secondary PP time.

Toronto gets 3rd/4th liner grinder who can play on the PK (mostly to replace Leo's role)

Done.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Would rather keep Khaira. More versatile (play all 3 forward positions), can drop the gloves, and decent offensive ability for a bottom 6er.

My assessment as well.
Except I disagree. You should trade him.

 

[ManofSteel55]

It’s not about his ability, it’s that dealing him for a guy like Leivo saves us over a million in cap space. 1.8 is a lot for the fourth line.

I don't mind paying 1.8 for a fourth liner if its a guy like Kassian, who can be moved up a line once in awhile if needed. I'd rather than than an 800K guy who hasn't shown he can play every night.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Okay come on now. Leivo isn’t garbage but expecting a 40 point pace out of him on five seasons of spotwork here and there is just as silly as the guys that think Ty Rattie is scoring 50 points next year due to his pace last year.

More silly. At least Rattie has a shot of playing on McDavid's line for a significant amount of time. Connor could bounce 30 in off of Rattie's backside, ha ha.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Our garbage? Khaira can barely crack a forward group that's among the worst in the league. Hes done nothing at the NHL level. I love the hypocrisy here though; my guy is all sunshine and rainbows and is at least a third or fourth liner while the other guy is garbage. Leivo is not a tweener, he's an NHL quality forward who, unfortunately for him, got stuck in a numbers game on one of the deeper forward groups in the league. Where is he supposed to play, on the fourth line? That's not his style. He's an offensive winger who needs the minutes. Some GM is gonna get a 20/20 winger at a bargain when he's traded. There's a reason the Leafs haven't simply given him away.

Yes everyone is always so certain that all their prospects are really amazing and they just need the minutes and then they'll produce.

Then it turns out they're just Lonny Bohonos more often than not. Leivo might be a player and maybe some team will get a steal but you should stop trying to convince everyone that that's definitely going to happen and he's worth a ton.

You should get educated on Khaira though. It's not a good look when you ignorantly trash a player and a team in a pathetic defense of "your" guy.

 

[Spirit of 67]

You should get educated on Khaira though. It's not a good look when you ignorantly trash a player and a team in a pathetic defense of "your" guy.

Especially since the guy he's trashing has played almost twice as many games.

 

[jboknows]

Leivo has virtually no trade value because he really hasn't been given a chance to show what he's capable of (you can argue about those reasons, but our depth is a significant factor). The best thing the Leafs could do is showcase him for a few weeks (with ~15/16 mins of ice time) and hope he plays at the offensive level that he's capable of. I think there are a lot of people in this thread who haven't the faintest clue about him other than stat-reading.

 

[Risingwind]

Once Leivo actually scores 30 goals in a season this can be reassessed.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Oilers won't trade Kassian. I don't think Kassian would want to leave Edmonton. He resserected his career in Edmonton. Fans love him.
Lievo is not a good Players. JJ khaira is a beast and he is cheap.

 

[IIxGURUxII]

After speaking with my good friend Alexandre Giroux about AHL beasts..
Darn lost my train of thought while looking at his NHL stats