Confirmed Trade: [EDM/CHI] Duncan Keith and Tim Soderlund for Caleb Jones and Conditional 2nd/3rd round pick | Part 2

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

I think you’re overestimating Jones a bit here. He’s not that good and the Oilers have plenty of good young d-men coming up that could replace him !

I can care less about Jones.

Getting that cap hit gone was worth more then the return.

 

[ARSTNEIO]

This seems bad but then again everyone was clowning the caps for getting Brooks Orpik and that turned out great for them so who knows

 

[Bounces R Way]

I just don't understand making such a massive gamble on a 38 year old defenseman coming off 2 horrid seasons rebounding. Even if Keith plays well and is top 4ish quality there is limited upside to this deal. And a lot of downside if he struggles. Would be about a 1/4 of their cap going to useless players. That's cap space that could have gone to getting McDavid and Draisaitl some legitimate top 6 help.

 

[KCC]

This seems bad but then again everyone was clowning the caps for getting Brooks Orpik and that turned out great for them so who knows

Yes but common sense is that Washington had the pieces in place already. Signing Orpik was one of those, "bring in the odd veteran" because you can never have too many when a team is deep and can make a run. EDM is...well. EDM is EDM. lol

 

[Evincar]

One of the worst trades in recent memory.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Is Soderlund basically just a contract moving out from Chicago or does he have any potential 'Hawks fans?

 

[Bubba88]

Keith will help the Oilers. He's still a solid #4 D, but the value will come with leadership and experience. Something the Oilers really needed to bring in from outside.

 

[Evincar]

Keith will help the Oilers. He's still a solid #4 D, but the value will come with leadership and experience. Something the Oilers really needed to bring in from outside.

Thats a steep price to pay for leadership and experience.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I just don't understand making such a massive gamble on a 38 year old defenseman coming off 2 horrid seasons rebounding. Even if Keith plays well and is top 4ish quality there is limited upside to this deal. And a lot of downside if he struggles. Would be about a 1/4 of their cap going to useless players. That's cap space that could have gone to getting McDavid and Draisaitl some legitimate top 6 help.

 

[Section88]

No he's not lol

He absolutely is.

 

[Pengu]

This is the worst trade in a long time. 5.5 million for a declining 38 year old. There are now over 20 GMs who are cursing their luck that they didn't get hold of Holland....
Oh, and doing the trade just before the exp draft means Larsson is gone

 

[Jerkbait]

This is the worst trade in a long time. 5.5 million for a declining 38 year old. There are now over 20 GMs who are cursing their luck that they didn't get hold of Holland....
Oh, and doing the trade just before the exp draft means Larsson is gone

Have to agree. Nothing against DK but with no retention, the Oilers got hosed....yes also means Larsson is gone . Hearing several east coast teams have interest in Larsson including Philly and Pittsburgh.

 

[Sens]

Reminds me of all the people who talked trash about Tyler Barrie a year ago

 

[Voight]

Sad to see Duncs go but it was for the best. He wanted to be near his kid and after over 1,000 games of service, he earned that right. While he was outstanding in all 3 cup runs, watching him in 2015 was truly a treat.

Happy with the return. Jones is someone I liked a lot before the trade and the fact that we didn't have to retain made it only that much better.

 

[Bubba88]

Thats a steep price to pay for leadership and experience.

It's not that far off. He'd be getting a 2x 4.0 as UFA. Paying that extra 1.5 won't kill a franchise.

Oilers need to do something and that was the right move. Winning Cups and being a future HoF will cost money, not assets.

 

[Voight]

I just don't understand making such a massive gamble on a 38 year old defenseman coming off 2 horrid seasons rebounding. Even if Keith plays well and is top 4ish quality there is limited upside to this deal. And a lot of downside if he struggles. Would be about a 1/4 of their cap going to useless players. That's cap space that could have gone to getting McDavid and Draisaitl some legitimate top 6 help.

 

[NyQuil]

Reminds me of all the people who talked trash about Tyler Barrie a year ago

Who?

 

[CanadianCoyote]

Is Soderlund basically just a contract moving out from Chicago or does he have any potential 'Hawks fans?

Career AHL'er as his ceiling from what I'm seeing.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Reminds me of all the people who talked trash about Tyler Barrie a year ago

How?

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I'm surprised Oiler fans are upset. Duncan Keith is one of the best defenseman pretty much ever. All the Oilers D-men are going to learn a ton from this move, plus Keith is still a usable top 4 dman. The cap hit is probably a bit too much, but the Oilers have to routinely overspend in free agency to get guys anyway, so chances are bang for buck the Oilers won't lose much on this deal. This is a hockey culture trade, and I think it'll be a home run for the Oilers.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Is Soderlund basically just a contract moving out from Chicago or does he have any potential 'Hawks fans?

Contract moving out. He played 4th line minutes in sweden a few years ago

 

[Damifino]

Duncan has 2 years remaining of his 13yr deal (good on CHI, few deals that are that much term pan out). I'm not seeing it for EDM, Duncan Keith is in the 1yr @ near the league minimum stage of his career. They could get locker room leadership for far less.

 

[Dangles78]

Keith will help the Oilers. He's still a solid #4 D, but the value will come with leadership and experience. Something the Oilers really needed to bring in from outside.

Is he though? The eye test and especially the analytical test say otherwise. The Oilers didn't necessarily didn't give up a lot, but given the situation, they paid quite the price for a huge risk just to get some leadership.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Probably already mentioned but it doesn’t matter how Keith will play, the market value in this transaction was in the cap hit. Holland dropped the ball and didn’t get the premium for taking on 5+ mil in cap. The fact that he got angry defending the trade was not a good sign either.

 

[Cup or Bust]

In the end how he performs and his impact on the team is what is going to matter. At worst he is still an upgrade on what they currently have on there left side defense. The cap hit is not ideal and too high but they still have cap space and there is still no excuses for Holland to not make moves to fill other areas of the team, including signing Larsson. I am still more concerned with the other moves the team makes this off-season.