Miamipuck
Al Swearengen
Girardi simply isn't getting moved. We are going to be dealing with this whale of a contract for years to come.
I am not going to say never, where's Bob Gainey when you need him?
Girardi simply isn't getting moved. We are going to be dealing with this whale of a contract for years to come.
Thank you. The bold is basically what I care about the most. He wasn't drafted to be a puck-mover, he was drafted to bring snarl and bite to a group that hopefully had a few puck-movers.
If Sauer never gets hurt, I believe he's still playing with McDonagh to this day. That pair screamed like out future 1-2 after being developed and brought up together.
It seems evident to me that one of Girardi and Klein have to be moved to bring McIlrath into the fold next season. I think Klein's sub-par playoffs was more due to the injury and probably not having enough time to really properly get back into the groove. Think his contract is also an asset. Seems to me like if Sather HAS to move a guy on the back-end, it should be Girardi mainly due to cap purposes.
I'd really like to see McDonagh with the main squad. Hopefully he gets to the point one day where he's reliable enough to pair with McDonagh. For now, I'd take a Yandle-McIlrath. It seems like Yandle is tailor-made for AV's system and would be solid opposite Dylan. On paper, their games seem to mesh together really well. Yandle can skate, make nice passes and force the other team to defend while McIlrath can be the more reliable stay-at-home player next to him. I believe I've also heard McIlrath has a solid shot, so that could be an asset playing beside a player like Yandle.
This is wrong. McIlrath is already likely able to be a 6/7 defenseman. He's highly likely to be at least a 4/5 defenseman and his ceiling is to be a faster, tougher version of Jeff Beukeboom on the first pairing.
You're ignoring this thing called the cap, I would say that reason alone means changes to the D. Even if you can't move one of the high priced guys, a guy like Klein on a great contract could still be moved to save around $2m. So then McIlrath does have an ideal #6 spot to come into. You try to keep a guy like Hunwick in case he can't do it, but it's really important the staff lets Dylan play, it's in their best interest he makes it.with the top 6 likely returning next year
yandle has been a target for years
boyle is on the last year of a 2 yr deal. no cap relief if moved.
staal won't bring value in a trade. good luck.
girardi will retire a nyr
klein is on a great cap contract.
mcd.
with that top 6 probably returning, where will dylan play and wouldn't hunwick returning make more sense ? is mcilrath better than hunwick on this team and then, is he better than any of the returning top 6 ?
and if not, do they keep mcilrath even though he doesnt really fit as a true 7th.
looks to me like they would need to move klein or boyle to add mcilrath. not sure thats anything more than lateral at the very best and possibly much worse.
interesting situation
You're ignoring this thing called the cap, I would say that reason alone means changes to the D. Even if you can't move one of the high priced guys, a guy like Klein on a great contract could still be moved to save around $2m. So then McIlrath does have an ideal #6 spot to come into. You try to keep a guy like Hunwick in case he can't do it, but it's really important the staff lets Dylan play, it's in their best interest he makes it.
What possibly makes being a #4/5 likely? That's his ceiling.
I agree and really like Klein, I'd try to move Boyle since he'll be gone in a year anyway. But you have to manage the cap and it's both in our interest from a cap end as well as organization need to add someone like Dylan. So why not do it sooner than later? Adding Dylan allows us to replace Glass. Does it really matter if we win another presidents trophy? We have no other RH depth close. The cap savings will go towards resigning our forwarders and making that core better.great
klein played lights out for us early last season until he was hurt. was maybe our best overall dman.
lets move a solid defender with a cap friendly deal to add un unproven kid to the top 6 and hope our defense is just as good as last years presidents cup winning team.
not sure thats a chance i want to take. this whole rebuilding a top 5 defense thing scares me. dylan mcilrath needs to be alot more ready before i move reliable and affordable kevin klein and hand the job to dylan.
maybe mid season i consider that, but right now i start the season with the same 6 and look to eliminate some money elsewhere.
He looked absolutely terrible last year, like a pylon. I heard major progress has been made in Hartfort this year. I don't watch them though.
Why do we continue talking about this guy. He has shown time and time again when he has been called up or in training camp, that he is to slow and not NHL type of material (except maybe toughness). From all reports outside the Rangers organization is that this guy has been average at best in the AHL and if he was not selected as a first rounder, would not even be on anyone's radar. If he is on the Rangers roster next year because we have traded one of our top 4, then this team will be going nowhere.
Why do we continue talking about this guy. He has shown time and time again when he has been called up or in training camp, that he is to slow and not NHL type of material (except maybe toughness). From all reports outside the Rangers organization is that this guy has been average at best in the AHL and if he was not selected as a first rounder, would not even be on anyone's radar. If he is on the Rangers roster next year because we have traded one of our top 4, then this team will be going nowhere.
Is there any reason he can't be another Beukeboom, who was a first pair defenseman for many years, including on a Cup winner? Mcilrath is bigger, tougher (fights and hits), faster, has a harder shot. Different era? Sure, but that's where his superior speed comes in.
If McIlrath can learn to defend against talented offensive players 1 on 1, he will play on one of the top 2 pairs. His group defense (positioning) is already good, just needs to pick up the 1 on 1 defense. Depending on how much he improves that, Mcilrath will determine if he will be on the first or second pair. If he doesn't improve that very much, he will be on the third pair playing against bottom-6 guys. That's not his ceiling, that's almost his floor. Mcilrath will need to go downright lazy and give up on hockey to not be at least on a third pair in his prime.
Would you mind answering about McIlrath's positioning through the neutral zone, his ability to stymy oncoming forecheckers, and his first pass out of the zone? I know he has all the physical tools, but do you think he's quick enough with his mental decisions?
Would you mind answering about McIlrath's positioning through the neutral zone, his ability to stymy oncoming forecheckers, and his first pass out of the zone? I know he has all the physical tools, but do you think he's quick enough with his mental decisions?
Is there any reason he can't be another Beukeboom, who was a first pair defenseman for many years, including on a Cup winner? Mcilrath is bigger, tougher (fights and hits), faster, has a harder shot. Different era? Sure, but that's where his superior speed comes in.
If McIlrath can learn to defend against talented offensive players 1 on 1, he will play on one of the top 2 pairs. His group defense (positioning) is already good, just needs to pick up the 1 on 1 defense. Depending on how much he improves that, Mcilrath will determine if he will be on the first or second pair. If he doesn't improve that very much, he will be on the third pair playing against bottom-6 guys. That's not his ceiling, that's almost his floor. Mcilrath will need to go downright lazy and give up on hockey to not be at least on a third pair in his prime.
#23 was elite at breaking up 2 on 1s, know why? He got a lot of practice. I love #2 but his best years are when he was paired with #23. You need that balance with d pairs. #23 would be a pro today, he would have got the training that players today get(much better skating and puck skill training then back in the day). He would be a different player but he still would have made it.Probably has something to do with how much the game has changed and, as a result, not being 100% sure a prime Beukeboom would even make the NHL today. Its a speed league, not a rock'em sock'em league anymore. And spare me with how Beuk was a "1st pair defenseman for many years" - take a look at his partner.
AV doesn't like goons. I don't see a future for McIlrath here.
#23 was elite at breaking up 2 on 1s, know why? He got a lot of practice. I love #2 but his best years are when he was paired with #23. You need that balance with d pairs. #23 would be a pro today, he would have got the training that players today get(much better skating and puck skill training then back in the day). He would be a different player but he still would have made it.
it's not all speed, look at the Caps and the Ducks. Huge teams that try to wear you down. McIlrath would help tremendously with those bigger teams that like to run around and just knock people out of games. It would also help against the speedy teams like Tampa that have these quick small forwards making moves towards the center ice, with Mcilrath coming across to take their ****ing head off they second guess that option. Even small teams like Tampa aren't afraid of crashing the ranger net, there is no one on our D that will consistently look to clear the crease. You have to pair Dylan with a great skate and puck mover and pairing like this has been missing far too long.Probably has something to do with how much the game has changed and, as a result, not being 100% sure a prime Beukeboom would even make the NHL today. Its a speed league, not a rock'em sock'em league anymore. And spare me with how Beuk was a "1st pair defenseman for many years" - take a look at his partner.