People are really low on Barzal after his sophomore slump eh?
I'll take Barzal, I think he's the PPG player that he showed in his rookie season and will return to that level of production again.
People are really low on Barzal after his sophomore slump eh?
I'll take Barzal, I think he's the PPG player that he showed in his rookie season and will return to that level of production again.
The islanders would be worse off long term if you swapped Barzal and Larkin imo
I dunno about that. Youre getting probably somewhere around a point per game out of each player going forward but Barzal has a ways to go to make the same impact defensively as Larkin.
For this poll, Larkin is better now but Barzal does have a high end offense to his game that if things go well it could end up a wash. I dont see Barzal being a 90+ point guy though
Two young star centers. Gotta go with the one who has more upside offensively, Barzal and it wasn’t too hard a choice.
Okay NostradamusI think Larkin is the easy choice.
Barzal is never reaching his rookie point totals ever again IMO
The islanders would be worse off long term if you swapped Barzal and Larkin imo
Feel the same about Detroit being worse long term if Barzal and Larkin were swapped
I realllly don’t think so. Especially since Barzal would be playing with an effective goal scoring winger and not Tom kuhnackl
First of all (according to NaturalStatTrick), Barzal's most common linemate this season has been Lee, a previous 40 goal scorer. Almost 80 more minutes this season alone at 5v5 than Kuhnhackl. He's been with Bailey only 20 minutes less than Kuhnhackl. Eberle 30 more minutes than Kuhnhackl. You're over-exaggerating this. There are better arguments to argue Barzal over Larkin.
Last season his most common linemates were in order- Bailey, Beauviller and Eberle. Bailey outproduced Nyquist, Mantha and Bertuzzi did on Detroit last season. (Mantha was hurt for 15 games and had an awful October in his defense.) Larkin also played 325 minutes and 48 seconds with Abdelkader, and 246:55 with Helm last season, who aren't any better than Kuhnhackl. Pretty incredible Larkin had 73 pts in 76 games given that context.
I find it interesting that you intentionally didn’t quote the second half of my post... which was the entirety of the point.
As for last season. Bailey had between 1-3 more points than all of those guys. Beauvillier had far less, as did eberle. Neither had great linemates last season, but I was clearly pointing to this year and how I think it will play out. Like I said no point in arguing now, bookmark and quote me at year end. Pretty sure I’ll be correct on this one
Unless there was some type of lag time apparently not...?Because you added it after you posted it and you and I both know that
Dude - I read his post before you even replied. He edited nothing.Because you added it after you posted it and you and I both know that
Just a hunch, it will be pretty consensus by seasons end that Larkin is in fact not better now. Don’t think he would be producing with kuhnuckl and Lee on his line. Obviously im biased and they’re both great young players
Feel free to bookmark and quote me on it