Confirmed with Link: Duclair, J. Moore, 1st (2016), 2nd (2015) for Yandle (50% Retained), Summers, and 4th

[haveandare]

It technically does not cover the raise plus another player to replace his 3rd pairing spot.

Boyle makes $4.5, Yandle actually makes $5.25M, but we're only paying $2.625M. That puts Yandle at $7.125M if we don't factor in any cap increases or replacement players.

But you'd have to factor in Skjei or McIlrath coming in on their ELC/Bridge deals, which is another $1M... So let's pray that we're able to have McIlrath take a 3/4 year bridge deal.

Yeah, I'm an idiot. I didn't think of the other half plus the raise.

Still, my post above works here too. Other players will leave, other youngins will step up. It'll be possible to extend him if they want to IMO.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

We have more leaving than Boyle too though.

MSL for example will be gone by then. I'd bet pretty much anything on that. Perhaps replaced by someone very cheap like Buch.

Plus, there's a decent chance McI or Sjkei take a D spot.

There are enough prospects pushing that they can make it work IMO.

D. Moore will likely either be gone or take a paycut. I'd honestly keep him, I think he's incredibly underrated and a really solid 4th liner. I'm not saying it couldn't worth, because I do think it's totally possible, but it could become very messy. Thank goodness all the players we really care about resigning are all RFAs, so that helps, but we still have a lot to work out. I'm more interested in this offseason than anything, as Stepan is clearly our #1 priority. I hope we don't overpay out the butthole. His RFA status definitely helps us there.

 

[Radek27]

Beautiful ****ing trade.

That's how you sell high. Duclair was a 3rd rounder and he had question marks.

Arizona eats 50pct too.

They can replace Duclair with one of the 2nds.

Seriously, talk about turning a 3rd round pick into pure gold.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Anyone else thinking that everything will be for naught if McDonagh doesn't get his head out his ass?

 

[NYR Viper]

With MZA resigning for 4 more years (not confirmed), Nash and Kreider already here and Hayes, Miller and Fast seemingly solidifying their NHL places it opened up a winger to being dealt. Someone decided that Duclair had the most value without hurting the current team. Can't say I disagree.

I have a strong feeling everyone is going to love Yandle

 

[Bluenote13]

Who are the top 5-10 targets in your mind, BN?

Any of them equivalent to 1st round pick talent? 2nd?

No one player is a sure 1st rounder, though if Mike Reilly takes the Schultz way out he could be some FA.

I like Kenny Morrison, 6'2 RHD out of W.Michigan, upfront I like Casey Bailey but so does everyone, look for the Bruins or Flames to be the frontrunners on him.

I'll get into others in the '15 draft thread.

Yeah there's just something unusual about this move. He finally addressed a problem this team has had for years, but he gave up a ton to do it, and the guy is likely going to be more of a PP specialist to boot given who is ahead of him on the left side. Maybe they play him on the right on one of the top two pairings, but it's a lot to pay for a guy who likely isn't going to get a ton of ES ice-time.

He's gonna have to play on the Right, makes no sense to have him play as a specialist.

Guess it doesn't matter that they burned the first year off Duclair's ELC now.

Always look forward to your first impression

 

[haveandare]

Anyone else thinking that everything will be for naught if McDonagh doesn't get his head out his ass?

Not really. He's had some good games bunch together recently. His acceleration has looked back to what I expect from him recently in particular, which is a great sign.

I think everyone is playing a little weird knowing that Talbot is back there instead of Hank. They sure as anything can't play the way they would in front of Lundqvist, or they'd be buried real quick.

 

[schabadoo]

With MZA resigning for 4 more years (not confirmed), Nash and Kreider already here and Hayes, Miller and Fast seemingly solidifying their NHL places it opened up a winger to being dealt. Someone decided that Duclair had the most value without hurting the current team. Can't say I disagree.

I have a strong feeling everyone is going to love Yandle

Now that's what I call a calm thought-out post.

 

[TheTakedown]

We have more leaving than Boyle too though.

MSL for example will be gone by then. I'd bet pretty much anything on that. Perhaps replaced by someone very cheap like Buch.

Plus, there's a decent chance McI or Sjkei take a D spot.

There are enough prospects pushing that they can make it work IMO.

I would still think that McIlrath and Skjei would be ready by the time those other contracts are up... if that happens, you're talking 2 Defense roster spots occupying $2M... thats a huge advantage

 

[haveandare]

I would still think that McIlrath and Skjei would be ready by the time those other contracts are up... if that happens, you're talking 2 Defense roster spots occupying $2M... thats a huge advantage

Add that to the possibility of Buch in for MSL and there's a nice amount of breathing room to extend CK, Hayes and Yandle if they see fit.

 

[Trxjw]

He's gonna have to play on the Right, makes no sense to have him play as a specialist.

That means playing two guys on their off-side, which flies in the face of AV's preferences. Seems really strange. Maybe that's why he was sitting through all those meetings today.

 

[ecemleafs]

That means playing two guys on their off-side, which flies in the face of AV's preferences. Seems really strange. Maybe that's why he was sitting through all those meetings today.

or we just play the 3rd pair a lot more now and have fresh defenseman

 

[NYR Viper]

That means playing two guys on their off-side, which flies in the face of AV's preferences. Seems really strange. Maybe that's why he was sitting through all those meetings today.

I think it just means that AV has 3 pairings that can play big minutes.

McDonagh-Girardi
Yandle-Klein
Staal-Boyle

 

[Beacon]

I think it just means that AV has 3 pairings that can play big minutes.

McDonagh-Girardi
Yandle-Klein
Staal-Boyle

Staal and Boyle being our third pair is pretty damn crazy. Best defense sine 1995 (when we traded away Zubov), that's for sure.

 

[TheTakedown]

Add that to the possibility of Buch in for MSL and there's a nice amount of breathing room to extend CK, Hayes and Yandle if they see fit.

That means playing two guys on their off-side, which flies in the face of AV's preferences. Seems really strange. Maybe that's why he was sitting through all those meetings today.

That I do understand, but I think it will be OK. We have Staal, McDonagh, and Klein locked up pretty long term. It's clear that Girardi is now the weakest link. Boyle is a stop gap.

Now I am seeing why they did not extend Stralman. He wanted term, Rangers needed flexibility for these prospects to have spots.

On the other hand you could always trade them after they are signed. Meh, either way

 

[GFiP*]

It's pretty clear. Win the cup and its worth it, if not then we got trade *****.

 

[aufheben]

I think you can judge a trade when it happens. If Yandle wins a Conn Smythe (ridiculous scenario but nonetheless), in a losing effort, is it still a "loss"? We paid a hefty price to increase our odds at winning. Going all-in can be a good decision regardless of whether you win or not, I think anyway.

 

[Carnival Barker]

Anyone else thinking that everything will be for naught if McDonagh doesn't get his head out his ass?

He's been very good recently. He was flat last night just like the entire team. It happens.

 

[Miller Time NYR]

It's pretty clear. Win the cup and its worth it, if not then we got trade *****.

While I agree, this trade doesn't have to be judged right away because he's a two year rental... Nonetheless I agree you gotta do what you gotta do to win, and if you do whatever you've done is worth it.

 

[haveandare]

It's pretty clear. Win the cup and its worth it, if not then we got trade *****.

I disagree.

IF they don't win this year, this deal still helps them pick and choose the D depending on who can step up rather than banking on someone like Sjkei stepping up.

Plus, if they don't win this year, and something goes wrong next year before the deadline, they'll have a hugely valuable rental in Yandle if they decide it's best to move him. He'd return that 1st easy IMO, and if they retain another 50% (which I think is possible?) they could get even more.

 

[aufheben]

Part Dos, yo: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1845867