News Article: Downtown Arena possible

[Loach]

Now put it on a giant bridge over the river

 

[mysens]

Professional people won’t ride public transportation = Interesting conclusion.

The above poster is right. As much as it hurts to hear, going to a Sens game now in valet, you find Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley etc. I cannot see these individuals taking an LRT train to a game. Call it what you will, but the big money invested in suites and lower bowl season tickets like the finer things in life.

 

[Big Muddy]

The above poster is right. As much as it hurts to hear, going to a Sens game now in valet, you find Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley etc. I cannot see these individuals taking an LRT train to a game. Call it what you will, but the big money invested in suites and lower bowl season tickets like the finer things in life.

You're saying professional people have Lamborghinis, Ferraris, McLarens, Rolls Royces, & Bentley’s?

Apparently, there is a lot to be learned in this thread.

 

[Micklebot]

The above poster is right. As much as it hurts to hear, going to a Sens game now in valet, you find Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley etc. I cannot see these individuals taking an LRT train to a game. Call it what you will, but the big money invested in suites and lower bowl season tickets like the finer things in life.

I guess in other cities with downtown arenas that have limited parking those people don't go to games either?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

The above poster is right. As much as it hurts to hear, going to a Sens game now in valet, you find Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley etc. I cannot see these individuals taking an LRT train to a game. Call it what you will, but the big money invested in suites and lower bowl season tickets like the finer things in life.

In the COTU, people take transit (GO, Up, or TTC) because it is easier than dealing with traffic. The people that drive in are from the sticks.

 

[Big Muddy]

I guess in other cities with downtown arenas that have limited parking those people don't go to games either?

They keep their Lamborghini/McLaren's parked in their garages and use their helicopters to fly in.

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[BonHoonLayneCornell]

They keep their Lamborghini/McLaren's parked in their garages and use their helicopters to fly in.

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Carried in by their servants

 

[Big Muddy]

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Carried in by their servants

LOL.

Sometimes they use their elephants as well.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

LOL.

Sometimes they use their elephants as well.

Lol, yes, but isn't riding elephants known to be bad for them? I figured I'd spare the animal cruelty and focus on human cruelty instead!

 

[Big Muddy]

Lol, yes, but isn't riding elephants known to be bad for them? I figured I'd spare the animal cruelty and focus on human cruelty instead!

They are using AI now to biologically reengineer mice into elephants, so with the abundance of elephants, the professional people don’t have to worry about that anymore.

 

[JD1]

Professional people won’t ride public transportation = Interesting conclusion.

In Toronto and Montreal there's an actual culture of using the subway to get around. It's been that way for decades.

When was the OC Transpo strike? 2008? That was the last time I used public transportation. I live in the suburbs and have actually never been on a bus in my suburb. Not once in 30+ years.

Taking a bus is not something people in this city do when there's a car available

 

[Golden_Jet]

They are using AI now to biologically reengineer mice into elephants,

Better make bigger sewers.

In Toronto and Montreal there's an actual culture of using the subway to get around. It's been that way for decades.

When was the OC Transpo strike? 2008? That was the last time I used public transportation. I live in the suburbs and have actually never been on a bus in my suburb. Not once in 30+ years.

Taking a bus is not something people in this city do when there's a car available

Been on the bus twice, 2 days I dropped off the car for service.

 

[Big Muddy]

In Toronto and Montreal there's an actual culture of using the subway to get around. It's been that way for decades.

When was the OC Transpo strike? 2008? That was the last time I used public transportation. I live in the suburbs and have actually never been on a bus in my suburb. Not once in 30+ years.

Taking a bus is not something people in this city do when there's a car available

In a large metro areas, using public transportation (commuter rail, subway, whatever) is often the fastest and most efficient way of getting somewhere. And it saves money also as parking is really expensive, if you can find it.

Anyhow, its probably a good idea for me to not continue further into this discussion.

 

[JD1]

Better make bigger sewers.


Been on the bus twice, 2 days I dropped off the car for service.

if my wife or my dad wasn't available to drive me home from the mechanic's place, I'd be forced to re-schedule my appointment q

 

[JD1]

In a large metro areas, using public transportation (commuter rail, subway, whatever) is often the fastest and most efficient way of getting somewhere. And it saves money also as parking is really expensive, if you can find it.

Anyhow, its probably a good idea for me to not continue further into this discussion.

Right. Ottawa isn't a large metro area. I agree with your point, it just doesn't apply to this city.

Apart from commuting to and from work in the downtown core, which is a mess now because of the train and wfh, people in this city simply don't use public transportation if they have a car. Like ever.

I was quite serious about my suburb comment. I lived in Orleans since 93, never been on a bus here.

 

[Loach]

The above poster is right. As much as it hurts to hear, going to a Sens game now in valet, you find Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren, Rolls Royce, Bentley etc. I cannot see these individuals taking an LRT train to a game. Call it what you will, but the big money invested in suites and lower bowl season tickets like the finer things in life.

You see those cars in the winter? My fishing buddy uses a BMW as a tow car for his boat, but doubt there are Lambos cooking out to watch Sens games in January. Wtf.

In Toronto and Montreal there's an actual culture of using the subway to get around. It's been that way for decades.

When was the OC Transpo strike? 2008? That was the last time I used public transportation. I live in the suburbs and have actually never been on a bus in my suburb. Not once in 30+ years.

Taking a bus is not something people in this city do when there's a car available

I remember when the cabs went on strike. It was so easy to get around the city.

 

[mysens]

You see those cars in the winter? My fishing buddy uses a BMW as a tow car for his boat, but doubt there are Lambos cooking out to watch Sens games in January. Wtf.


I remember when the cabs went on strike. It was so easy to get around the city.

Sorry to say, there are multiple Lamborghini Urus at games, there is also a buddy of mine from our car group who brings his white Lamborghini Huracan on dry days to the Sens game, dead of winter. Then there is an absurd amount of G Wagun as well. Guys who have G Waguns generally have an exotic or two in their garage.

 

[Big Muddy]

Right. Ottawa isn't a large metro area. I agree with your point, it just doesn't apply to this city.

Apart from commuting to and from work in the downtown core, which is a mess now because of the train and wfh, people in this city simply don't use public transportation if they have a car. Like ever.

I was quite serious about my suburb comment. I lived in Orleans since 93, never been on a bus here.

As a pure aside, I used to live in Ottawa.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

There is Parking Available at MSG, and the “event” determines the cost of parking. Not sure how many spots are available but if you have the cash, you can book a parking spot for your event.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Just over 8 years ago, the winning bid only allocated 500 parking spots at an Arena at Lebreton Flats…. And this time around it will most likely be the same… so the Rich and Famous may have to opt for a car service to get to events at a new Arena.

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[mysens]

Just over 8 years ago, the winning bid only allocated 500 parking spots at an Arena at Lebreton Flats…. And this time around it will most likely be the same… so the Rich and Famous may have to opt for a car service to get to events at a new Arena.

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Perfect. I will grab one of those 500 spaces.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I still think Lebreton is a great spot for the arena and entertainment complex. But, I would hope there's some sort of ability to add a shitload of underground parking. LRT is decent and all, but Ottawa is going to remain a car city for at least another 30 years (or generation or two). Just the way this city is designed and how it has grown. Unless an asteroid or nuke flattens the place and we start over from scratch and can build a more mass transit and walking friendly city.

But I also think we (well, the powers in charge of things) have to be smart about this. Where exactly is the best place both for the team, and the city? What works for everyone and helps make the team a destination for players and corporate sponsors, while also enhancing the city and being profitable for Ottawa?

And wherever they choose, it's going to be the home of the Sens for the next 30-40 years at least, so it has to be a spot that works today and decades down the line. And how the hell are you getting people out of their homes and theater rooms and into an arena in February when it's -30 and they have a 60 hour work week just to survive? You have to offer more than just a hockey game...there has to be value to the arena+ to make it a destination 300+ days a year to be viable.

 

[ottawah]

Professional people won’t ride public transportation = Interesting conclusion.

The season ticket holders i know are generally lawyers, high tech, medical. They do not work downtown and laugh at public transportation. They are not going to take their car to get to a park 'n ride, to get on a bus to get to a train station to take the train to get to the game them the same out. That will take them longer than getting out of the parking lot now. And the expense of the transit both ways for two people equals parking costs.

 

[ottawah]

I guess in other cities with downtown arenas that have limited parking those people don't go to games either?

Public transit is largely taken by downtown workers who generally are not going to a lot of games as the numbers making a take home pay equivalent to other cities centers ticket holders is very low. Ottawa is an entirely different city than any NHL team in that they have minimal downtown corporate sponsorship and season ticket holders who work downtown. Even when they were at Landsdowne, 75% of the tickets were sold to West End people. Every other city has a downtown core where the money, corporate and professional, is. That is entirely backwards to Ottawa. It is a unique situation that must be accounted for.

 

[GCK]

In Toronto many people drive downtown, park about a 10-20 minute walk away. I can see people driving downtown and using LRT to go from World Exchange to Lebreton. Each ticket will likely include a transit charge on it so you will have already paid for the ride.