Management Don Sweeney V: What do the Bruins do in (what could be) the craziest offseason ever?

[TCB]

Krejci got 72 points in 2018-19 was the best forward against Carolina and played very good against Tamps once in game 5 he got Pasta as a wing

they can look around but unless I’m getting back a drop in ready guy like a Trochek or JT Miller I pass

Yeah I hear ya.
The only way I trade him is if the return is good obviously, but I just don't think his stock will ever be this high again and with him entering his last year under contract, Sweeney needs to consider it at least.

Its also nice having Three top centers like Bergeon, Krejci and Coyle if one gets hurt, you have the depth. All depends on the direction Sweeney decides to go.

 

[chrisab123]

Problem is, you're not guaranteed at signing AP.

If you decide to pass on OEL and lose out on AP, then what? Play it safe and get a solid top 2 player that wants to come to Boston

But...the prices are too high - Don Sweeney

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Petro is looking at a 9 million plus contact and he plays right dee. Do we all of a sudden demote Mac and he decides well I do not want to stay here not being #1 and bolts. Or do we take the guy that we have a 50/50 shot at with a locked up term that equals the loss of Chara and Krug.

Also I never said we give Arizona Jake for OEL for the record. It will be probably Vaak, another prospect, Moore or Ritchie and a pick.

 

[wintersej]

The problem with the Oilers defesemen is it's musical chairs with them every season. One season, Klefbom is a legit #1. Next season he sucks and Nurse is a legit #1. Next season, Nurse sucks and Klefbom has redeemed himself and is now, unquestionably a #1. Next season, Klefbom is mediocre, Nurse is mediocre and Ethan Bear is the new hotness. So it goes.

I'm not sure it's possible to make an accurate assessment with those guys and that bipolar team.

And oddly the guy who is playing a lot with McDavid is the new hotness. What a weird coincidence.

 

[NeelyDan]

Sweeney has made plenty of moves - for better or for worse - during his time here, can we drop the tired narrative and lazy jokes claiming otherwise? Super duper irritating and provides zero to the conversation.

 

[TobanWest]

I would add Frederic before either of those two.

Beecher and Frederic need to stay. I honestly think I'm the only one that sees Frederic as a no trade. He brings an element they've needed since thornton

 

[Coach Parker]

I think the ask from the Coyotes is Beecher, Vaakanainen, pick with Moore as the salary dump, possibly with Ritchie, if I had to guess.

That instantly gives the Coyotes a C prospect with top six potential and three guys immediately signed for term on the roster. Would be worried about moving Vaakanianen and him having a breakout year but that's the gamble here.

 

[wintersej]

Random thoughts on players mentioned around here recently...

Nikita Zadorov - I think people like the idea of adding a big, physical, somewhat mobile defenseman, and there's something to that. But I'd also like that big, physical, mobile defenseman to be good, and Nikita Zadorov just... isn't. And he's going to get paid probably more than $4 million/year. He's a bigger, dumber, not as tough, Russian Adam McQuaid. Hard pass

Thatcher Demko - I'm not sure why the Canucks would want to trade him - he played really well for them down the stretch, and he's signed for another year on an ELC, I believe. I actually thought there's a chance that those Bruins-Canucks trade talks everyone mentioned a few weeks ago were likely about the Bruins dealing Rask to Vancouver in order to mentor Demko for a year. Then after the year, the Canucks could still protect Demko in the Expansion Draft. Besides, why would the Bruins be interested in trading for a young goalie before seeing what they've got in Vladar, Keyser, and Swayman?

Darnell Nurse - I think there's a lot of wishcasting going on here in regards to his availability. I can't think of a single good reason why the Oilers would want to deal him - especially for a guy like Jake DeBrusk. This is not a possibility that Bruins fans are going to speak into existence.

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - The Coyotes can leak all they want about making a Ryan O'Reilly-type deal. The fact is that neither the Bruins nor the Canucks have to acquire him, but the Coyotes have to shed his salary. They're a motivated seller trying to offload a depreciated asset to a limited number of buyers who aren't terribly motivated to buy. Neither the Bruins nor the Canucks are going to pull the trigger unless they get a deal that's too good to pass up. You know what this deal hasn't happened yet? Because Arizona hasn't come to terms yet with the idea that they're not going to get anywhere near as much in return for OEL as they were hoping for. My offer if I'm Don Sweeney:

• Coyotes choice of either taking John Moore or retaining $1.25 million for the duration of the contract.
• Coyotes can choose two of the following: Urho Vaakanainen, Jeremy Lauzon, Trent Frederic, Jakub Lauko, Daniel Vladar
• 2021 2nd round draft pick

Take it or leave it.

I don’t think the Coyotes have to shed a salary. I think it’s more like Joe Thornton. They have decided this guy isn’t the guy and want to hit the reset button.

 

[TobanWest]

Wow, someone likes our prospects? Ship them Syneshyn asap.

Why can't we give this kid a legit chance before pulling the trigger? Looked damn good on his few games.

 

[TobanWest]

Too much I would no way include Frederic or Lauzon

These are 2 specific players that fit where the Bruins are headed

Bjork & Vaakanainen the two players with Moore

 

[TobanWest]

Exactly!!

 

[Don Cherry]

Too much I would no way include Frederic or Lauzon

These are 2 specific players that fit where the Bruins are headed

Bjork & Vaakanainen the two players with Moore

I hate seeing Frederick and Lauzon included in trades. They both have the grit that the whole organization lacks. Lauzon really looks like a keeper to me.

 

[goalieman40]

I don’t see how Beecher can be included either. We’re going to need him to backfill at center in a few years

 

[DKH]

I hate seeing Frederick and Lauzon included in trades. They both have the grit that the whole organization lacks. Lauzon really looks like a keeper to me.

Bingo

 

[Don Cherry]

Why can't we give this kid a legit chance before pulling the trigger? Looked damn good on his few games.

I don't remember being too impressed. What did he do that you liked? I agree with giving everyone a legit chance.

 

[Coach Parker]

Let’s say for shits you sign Dillon and trade for Zad. You fill Chara and Krug spots. Griz slots with Clifton or JL plus you have depth with UV , Moore, Kempfner. Now Sweeney been good at plucking back up goalies. Right? Hopefully he’s on his game now. He does that . He has enough he can go get one really good wing and another ok wing unless he balls on Hall. Without moving Carlo and keeping Debrusk. You weaken yourself in net at the goalie position no doubt but you strengthen yourself in two areas. In D and O. Plus you got younger and have a first rd pick you can use by dealing with Colorado.

You can't sign Dillon, trade for Zadorov and keep Carlo. You can't have all four on contract for the expansion as you immediately lose one to Seattle.

The Bruins can only protect 3 D. I'd love your pairings but they only last one year then are gone and you're weaker than now.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Beecher and Frederic need to stay. I honestly think I'm the only one that sees Frederic as a no trade. He brings an element they've needed since thornton

I don’t mean this in a snarky way, but what element does Frederic provide that we haven’t had since Thornton?

 

[analyser]

Correct. But at least with OEL, you'll find out if he comes here before FA. That's the difference....if you just pass on him and fail on AP, that's a little harder to digest because you could've made a play for OEL a little more.

I personally do not think OEL or Krug are worth the money. OEL at 8.5 or Krug around 7.5.

Their are other options out there so do not get sucked in DS, you have made enough patch me deals which will not rectify your situation. Don't panic and make a move just to show that you are being active.

 

[Coach Parker]

Random thoughts on players mentioned around here recently...

Nikita Zadorov - I think people like the idea of adding a big, physical, somewhat mobile defenseman, and there's something to that. But I'd also like that big, physical, mobile defenseman to be good, and Nikita Zadorov just... isn't. And he's going to get paid probably more than $4 million/year. He's a bigger, dumber, not as tough, Russian Adam McQuaid. Hard pass

Thatcher Demko - I'm not sure why the Canucks would want to trade him - he played really well for them down the stretch, and he's signed for another year on an ELC, I believe. I actually thought there's a chance that those Bruins-Canucks trade talks everyone mentioned a few weeks ago were likely about the Bruins dealing Rask to Vancouver in order to mentor Demko for a year. Then after the year, the Canucks could still protect Demko in the Expansion Draft. Besides, why would the Bruins be interested in trading for a young goalie before seeing what they've got in Vladar, Keyser, and Swayman?

Darnell Nurse - I think there's a lot of wishcasting going on here in regards to his availability. I can't think of a single good reason why the Oilers would want to deal him - especially for a guy like Jake DeBrusk. This is not a possibility that Bruins fans are going to speak into existence.

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - The Coyotes can leak all they want about making a Ryan O'Reilly-type deal. The fact is that neither the Bruins nor the Canucks have to acquire him, but the Coyotes have to shed his salary. They're a motivated seller trying to offload a depreciated asset to a limited number of buyers who aren't terribly motivated to buy. Neither the Bruins nor the Canucks are going to pull the trigger unless they get a deal that's too good to pass up. You know what this deal hasn't happened yet? Because Arizona hasn't come to terms yet with the idea that they're not going to get anywhere near as much in return for OEL as they were hoping for. My offer if I'm Don Sweeney:

• Coyotes choice of either taking John Moore or retaining $1.25 million for the duration of the contract.
• Coyotes can choose two of the following: Urho Vaakanainen, Jeremy Lauzon, Trent Frederic, Jakub Lauko, Daniel Vladar
• 2021 2nd round draft pick

Take it or leave it.

One note on Demko, the Canucks have DiPietro in the system and if Markstrom signs he is out because they cannot protect him from Seattle expansion.

 

[TobanWest]

I don't remember being too impressed. What did he do that you liked? I agree with giving everyone a legit chance.

He was noticable. Had 2 points in 4 games and 3 points in 6 games total. He's fast and has size. Having him on the third line for 20-40 games would only make sense. Sicks when kids don't get a true chance and end up getting traded before they can show. Small sample size seems like a player that deserves a chance instead of being compared to Barzal.

 

[TobanWest]

I don’t mean this in a snarky way, but what element does Frederic provide that we haven’t had since Thornton?

He's a big mean SOB that beats the shit out of people and intimidates. Not as much as Nordstrom or Krug but I'll take it.

 

[Don Cherry]

I’d love to see Krejci get one

they have two Olympic caliber wingers and they play with the Selke gold standard guy

when Bergeron was out and 46 stepped in they did excellent as a line

apparently they have a guy for him as of October 9th

If happens I’m happy with that

Where I am with Krejci is either go poo poo or get off the proverbial pot. Either get him a legit winger or two or move on and move Krejci. I'm not opposed to either way, but something needs to happen with line 2.

 

[Don Cherry]

He was noticable. Had 2 points in 4 games and 3 points in 6 games total. He's fast and has size. Having him on the third line for 20-40 games would only make sense. Sicks when kids don't get a true chance and end up getting traded before they can show. Small sample size seems like a player that deserves a chance instead of being compared to Barzal.

He could have been given a shot by now, I suppose. Why do you think he hasn't been given one?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

He was noticable. Had 2 points in 4 games and 3 points in 6 games total. He's fast and has size. Having him on the third line for 20-40 games would only make sense. Sicks when kids don't get a true chance and end up getting traded before they can show. Small sample size seems like a player that deserves a chance instead of being compared to Barzal.

Who is he?

 

[Mainehockey33]

He's a big mean SOB that beats the shit out of people and intimidates. Not as much as Nordstrom or Krug but I'll take it.

If Frederic can provide what Coyle brings right now I’d be pretty happy. He does have a lot of AHL fights, so maybe he will be more physical.