Speculation: Does Sanderson overtake EK65?

[AchtzehnBaby]

Sanderson is looking amazing. Do we dare think he overtakes EK65 stats in the future?

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[NyQuil]

I don't think he'll ever overtake him in "stats".

But he may end up as the better all-around defenceman.

 

[armani]

No, he is more Scott Niedermayer than Erik Karlsson, but he does display the video game skating of a young pre-Cooke Karlsson. Sanderson’s defensive coverage is exceptional.

 

[JungleBeat]

Karlsson was carrying teams on his back and passing the puck to guys like Condra, Greening, Smith, and Pyatt.

 

[Senscore]

Maybe if we get to the Finals

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

This is his age 21 season.

In Karlsson's age 21 season, he won the Norris.

Can Sanderson do that this year? Let's see!

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

I think Sanderson has the potential to win a Norris and be one of the premiere elite all-around dmen of this generation, and maybe even be considered the best defensively of his generation. But Karlsson was a once in a generation kind of player that consistently dragged the team further than they had any business being.

So I'm going to go with "no" because I feel like Karlsson is perhaps one of the top 10 or top 5 most talented defensemen we've ever seen in the NHL. Luckily Sanderson doesn't have to be as good to be a legend in his own right.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

This is his age 21 season.

In Karlsson's age 21 season, he won the Norris.

Can Sanderson do that this year? Let's see!

So far so good

 

[Slippy]

This is his age 21 season.

In Karlsson's age 21 season, he won the Norris.

Can Sanderson do that this year? Let's see!

I think he can.

 

[DueDiligence]

Sanderson is looking amazing. Do we dare think he overtakes EK65 stats in the future?

Not offensively but possibly as a better all round defenseman.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

I think Norris has the potential to win a Norris and be one of the premiere elite all-around dmen of this generation, and maybe even be considered the best defensively of his generation. But Karlsson was a once in a generation kind of player that consistently dragged the team further than they had any business being.

So I'm going to go with "no" because I feel like Karlsson is perhaps one of the top 10 or top 5 most talented defensemen we've ever seen in the NHL. Luckily Sanderson doesn't have to be as good to be a legend in his own right.

Norris just came back, talk about throwing him into the deep end by playing him on D

 

[Adele Dazeem]

It's a good thing you added the "maybe" option, because it's not unrealistic.

 

[NyQuil]

Imagining a prime Karlsson pre-Cooke with this line-up is too depressing to contemplate.

 

[GCK]

I said yes but that’s because I took it as Stats as a Sen, not career

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Nancy says so

 

[sennysensen]

Not in stats, but maybe in overall impact considering how Sandy defends so well.

Sandy is waaaay better than Owen Power at this point in their careers

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Imagining a prime Karlsson pre-Cooke with this line-up is too depressing to contemplate.

Yes, I'm so thankful that they're actually putting a proper team around Sanderson. That's the really sad thing about Karlsson, they had him signed to an absolute steal of a contract, and they put terrible teams around him during his prime in Ottawa. He never had anything close to the support Sanderson had, and that's just criminal. Eugene wasted the prime one of the greatest players in the history of the game with his cheapness.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

He still isn't worth 8x8, it was a bad signing. Karlsson only signed for 6.5M, and he had great hair.

edit: 8.05

He still isn't worth 8x8, it was a bad signing. Karlsson only signed for 6.5M, and he had great hair.

edit: 8.05

Sorry guys.

Now if any main boarders see this thread, they will turn around because someone already stole their take.

 

[senswon]

He still isn't worth 8x8, it was a bad signing. Karlsson only signed for 6.5M, and he had great hair.

edit: 8.05



Sorry guys.

Now if any main boarders see this thread, they will turn around because someone already stole their take.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Yes, I'm so thankful that they're actually putting a proper team around Sanderson. That's the really sad thing about Karlsson, they had him signed to an absolute steal of a contract, and they put terrible teams around him during his prime in Ottawa. He never had anything close to the support Sanderson had, and that's just criminal. Eugene wasted the prime one of the greatest players in the history of the game with his cheapness.

Damn son he was already getting depressed! Go easy on him.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Karlsson is a weird player who has two of the most productive defenseman seasons of all time (relative to league scoring) while playing with nobody.

His supporting cast for his previous big season had pre-breakout Zibanejad, post-Gumby Turris, post-sports hernia Ryan, Zack Smith, JGP, Curtis Lazar, and Alex Chiasson. Those first few names had their bright points, but if you look at our current lineup we probably have at least 5-6 forwards better than anybody on that list was that season. The only two true weapons he had that season were Stone and Hoffman.

Then last year, it isn't as if San Jose had a strong team offensively.

I think it is possible that Sanderson exceeds Karlsson, but we shouldn't talk like it's such an easy thing to do. Karlsson at his peak offensively is in the conversation for best non-Bobby Orr OFD in league history given that he finished top 5 in league scoring and 1st in assists.

The more enticing question is, by the end of the year does Sanderson overtake Stutzle as the most valuable player from the 2020 draft...

 

[JimmySpaetzle]

Overtaking him in stats? No. Ending up being a better all around defenceman? Maybe. But EK65 has 3 Norris trophies, not too many guys in the history of the league have accomplished that

 

[DanyHeatley]

Simply put it this way,
Put a 21yr old karlsson in this team right now.
He would do damage. Would he be as defensively sound? Idk questionable. But the points he would rack up with Stutzle, Tkachuk, Norris, Giroux, Batherson, Tarasenko, Chabot, Chychrun would be insane.

Of course, defensively he would be sheltered. He’d be a power play point per game player

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Sanderson is looking amazing. Do we dare think he overtakes EK65 stats in the future?

Wake me up at 700 . I should be very well rested.

 

[DueDiligence]

Imagining a prime Karlsson pre-Cooke with this line-up is too depressing to contemplate.

If Karlsson was here Norris and Timmy wouldn't be.