filinski77
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I see where you're coming from, and I'm definitely not trying to discredit the players who did indeed win, just adding context that for how dominant Ovi was for 3 straight years of leading the league in both Points and Goals per game.It is literally different. But it's still comparable. There were a couple years where Crosby missed 10-30 games and had insane paces. Like last season where he missed 10 games near the start and for most of the season some posters were trying to assert his ppg as a reason why McDavid shouldn't win the hart over Crosby. McDavid ended up with a slightly higher ppg so it didn't matter, but it was still a discussion being had.
Less of an assumption is still an assumption. There is no stat that is 100% predictive of future success or production. Would he have won the awards? Probably. But he didn't, so how is that season better than his 65g season where he won 4 awards? Imo it's not. That's the point Illpucks was trying to make and in order to do that you basically have to take credit away from the players who didn't get suspended and won the awards.
2007/2008: Swept all the awards, destroyed the league in goals with a 13 goal lead over #2, lead in points
2008/2009: Lead league in goals, with a 10 goal lead over #2 whilst still missing 3 games in the season. Malkin beat him by 3 points in 3 more games. Safe to say if Ovi played those 3 games he more likely than not would have won the Ross, but either way was still the best point producer that year
2009/2010: Destroyed the league in Points per game (and led in goals per game). Crosby and Stammer had 1 goal more with 9 and 10 games respectively in hand on Ovi. Also safe to say he would have scored 1 single goal. And for points he was only 3 points back with 9/10 games less.
My whole point was that Ovechkin missing a few games due to non-injury items is a lot different than crosby missing 29/41/60 games. Ovechkin dominated the league in goals and points for 3 straight years. As mentioned earlier, I believe McDavid probably will go down as a greater hockey player than Ovi, but that peak is going to be hard to beat unless McDavid leads the league in goals for a couple years too (which he definitely could at some point, but who knows).