Does Edmonton Deserve McDavid/Eichel?

[stubbadub]

Daly has probably had enough of Edmonton and won't let them get the lottery pick if they're out of last.

 

[JaegerDice]

What do you mean 'deserve'?

If teams got the players they 'deserved', the Stanley Cup winner and runner-up would pick first and second in the draft every year.

 

[oobga]

Clint said it best.




What the Oilers don't deserve is the fans still buying every ticket after Lowe has been given a free pass for 9 years.

 

[Seedling]

Did Pittsburgh deserve Crosby? Yes, we deserve one of them. It's likely the only real hope to advance this pitiful team forward to where it should be in a few years.

 

[Tekneek]

What do you mean 'deserve'?

If teams got the players they 'deserved', the Stanley Cup winner and runner-up would pick first and second in the draft every year.

Indeed. With the draft system being the way that it is, the best picks are setup to go to the least "deserving" teams. If the free market were at play, the worst teams would be unlikely to attract such talent each year.

 

[MISC*]

If they draft Eichel NHL fans should start a Kickstarter fundraiser to pay him the same amount of money to stay in college and leave once he can. JShultz kind of thing.

Nothing would embarrass the management more.

 

[RobertR]

But what will happen exactly, if one of two decide to not play for them? They become UFA right away?

 

[JaegerDice]

Indeed. With the draft system being the way that it is, the best picks are setup to go to the least "deserving" teams. If the free market were at play, the worst teams would be unlikely to attract such talent each year.

Right.

But it's best for everybody that it's not a free market. The league as a whole benefits when more teams are competitive, so it's in their best interests to provide failing teams the opportunity to improve themselves via the draft.

But it's not really a matter of deserving anything.

Would I TRUST Edmonton, as an organization, to nurture a talent like McDavid or Eichel so that they can reach their full potential?

Probably not.

But I'm a Blackhawks fan. Pre-Rocky, I wouldn't have trusted my own damn team to nurture and develop great talent. Things can change quickly.

 

[Ashasx]

But what will happen exactly, if one of two decide to not play for them? They become UFA right away?

If Eichel refuses, Edmonton has 4 years to decide what to do with him before he becomes a UFA. Won't happen

If McDavid refuses, Edmonton has 2 years to decide what to do before he re-enters the draft, just to be selected again by the Oilers.

 

[TeamlessWatcher]

I would love if Edmonton didn't get either of them as I don't want to see another wasted talent.

 

[dubey]

Leafs deserve him

 

[McPuritania]

No, they don't. They spend money on a crappy product "just because". They deserve crappy service.

This board is awesome. Florida and Arizona fans get mocked for not supporting their teams, and Oiler fans get mocked for supporting their teams. What a stupid, ignorant, comment.

 

[drganon]

Nope.

 

[JaegerDice]

But what will happen exactly, if one of two decide to not play for them? They become UFA right away?

They still own their rights.

If that situation came up, the smart thing to do would be for Edmonton to trade the asset for a great haul. Same way Quebec did when they traded Lindros for Forsberg and (I believe) a wack of cash.

 

[RobertR]

If Eichel refuses, Edmonton has 4 years to decide what to do with him before he becomes a UFA. Won't happen

If McDavid refuses, Edmonton has 2 years to decide what to do before he re-enters the draft, just to be selected again by the Oilers.

But can they play hockey those 2 or 4 years? Only in juniors? or anywhere they want, besides AHL/NHL?

Yeah, and interesting if one refuses, what will Oilers do? Just keep him, hoping he will change his mind? or just trade him asap.

 

[InfinityIggy]

The fans do, the franchise absolutely does not.

 

[Soundgarden]

Did Pittsburgh deserve Crosby? Yes, we deserve one of them. It's likely the only real hope to advance this pitiful team forward to where it should be in a few years.

They already had three of them, the top pick was supposed to be the saving grace each time it happened according to everyone around here. If they can't get out of the basement after three consecutive 1sts the league needs to prevent teams from doing so, so other teams can actually improve.

 

[Ashasx]

But can they play hockey those 2 or 4 years? Only in juniors? or anywhere they want, besides AHL/NHL?

Yeah, and interesting if one refuses, what will Oilers do? Just keep him, hoping he will change his mind? or just trade him asap.

The can't play in the AHL/NHL for those years.

if that happens, the Oilers will try to convince them to sign a deal and play for their team. If that doesn't work, they'll trade the player.

But the players have no leverage. They lose out on millions of dollars.

Edmonton could just call their bluff.

 

[Eisen]

But can they play hockey those 2 or 4 years? Only in juniors? or anywhere they want, besides AHL/NHL?

Yeah, and interesting if one refuses, what will Oilers do? Just keep him, hoping he will change his mind? or just trade him asap.

If they don't sign in the AHL/NHL, they can sign wherever they want. I'm sure the KHL would be very happy to nick one of them.

 

[Mafoofoo]

No. 4 1rst overalls in 6 years shouldn't be happening. They already had their 3 in a row streak. Let some other teams like Buffalo or Carolina get the 1rst/2nd overall picks.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Oilers Fans? Absolutely, more then almost every other fan base(Maybe Buffalo and CBJ fans too).


Oilers the team? Nope.

 

[Slicknitty]

We deserve both of them.

 

[MarkGio]

This board is awesome. Florida and Arizona fans get mocked for not supporting their teams, and Oiler fans get mocked for supporting their teams. What a stupid, ignorant, comment.

Arizona and Florida do not support incompetence, nor have not been blessed with one of the best economies on the planet. Edmonton also has an arena located in prime location.

I'm actually quit informed

 

[Cashville]

I've never understood the consternation about bad teams getting #1 picks several times in a fixed time period. The draft is setup to foster parity; it's not a perfect system, but they've improved the process by changing the lottery odds and I'm generally fine with it.

 

[nmbr_24]

Judging by how bad they have been in every aspect from the players to the coach to the GM to the scouts they deserve it more than anyone. I don't understand this line of thinking that happens around here that the Oilers don't"deserve to get that pick".

Just imagine being an Oiler fan and having to put up with that team. I say to anyone that is judging the Oilers to not deserve that pick to put themselves in an Oiler fans shoes for a second. Do you think it is fun to watch that team? It has to be the worst torture for an NHL fan that there has been over the past 7 years. Get off of your high horse and let the Oilers just pick where ever that pick falls, you don't deserve to tell them whether they deserve it or not.